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Lower Loft Meeting - Conclusion ( Please Read SussexR's Post #31)

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  1. Quality Passing Rules

    Quality Passing Rules Well-Known Member

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    Email sent. Hope it helps in some small way.
     
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  2. SussexR

    SussexR Well-Known Member

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    Cheers
     
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  3. Shawswood

    Shawswood Well-Known Member

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    Hi Sussex, acknowledge the hard work you're doing to garnish support for this campaign. I'm just a member, not a season ticket holder, not sure if an email from me is of any assistance to you.
    If it is, what do I say on it?
     
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  4. SussexR

    SussexR Well-Known Member

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    Hi GC, all help is welcome, just say you support our case even though you don't sit in the LL,

    Many thanks
     
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  5. Shawswood

    Shawswood Well-Known Member

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    Thanks Sussex, email sent.
     
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  6. finglasqpr

    finglasqpr Well-Known Member

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    Sussex,

    Indy R's have put something up on their facebook page.

    So did I on London Irish Superhoops facebook page.
     
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  7. SussexR

    SussexR Well-Known Member

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    Thanks mate I'll have a look
     
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  8. Rollercoaster Ranger

    Rollercoaster Ranger Well-Known Member

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    Good luck tomorrow Sussex.
     
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  9. SussexR

    SussexR Well-Known Member

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    Cheers Roller
     
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  10. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    email sent
    it is where I used to sit when I had a season ticket
    utter madness
     
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  11. SussexR

    SussexR Well-Known Member

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    Please see a summary of the meeting held this evening below:

    Dear All,

    Just got back from the Lower Loft meeting at Loftus Road.

    Present were 7 fans from the LL, Phil Beard, Jenny Winstanley (Ops Manager), Andy Rees (Customer Liaison), Diane (Box Office), One other Box Office representative whose name I didnt get.

    I think its fair to say that the club held its hands up for what has happened. Myself and one other supporter gave Phil Beard documents explaining the issues. Mine listed 38 points which I collated from all of the emails you sent me. Phil Beard promised to answer all of them.

    I also gave the club a copy of every email that I had received from you all, deidentified (because I felt it best to do so) to make the point about the depth of feeling.

    Discussions covered a number of topics including:

    Adults using kids tickets
    swearing
    Location of the Family Stand (but don't expect it to move)
    Adult entry without kids
    Upgrading of kids tickets to adults for night games
    The Stoke game shambles
    Consultation with fans
    Terms and Conditions
    Stewarding

    The outcome is that the club have agreed the following:

    Adults caught entering on Child tickets will be dealt with under the rules of entry
    Swearing will be dealt with under Stadium regulations
    For the rest of this season no adult fan will be be turned away if they do not have a child with them
    For the rest of this season no fan will be relocated if you go without your child
    Before the end of this season the Club will begin consulting with the fans on the Family Stand for next season, including its location, and the terms and conditions of its operation.
    The club will continue to monitor any abuse of the Family Stand rules, other than that mentioned above.
    The club will write again to all Lower Loft Adult Season ticket holders sumarising the meeting.

    Taking into account the outcome above I plan NOT to leaflet the Lower Loft at the Liverpool game because I feel that the club has addressed the immediate issues and has promised to consult for next season. I will of course retain the Leaflets should they be needed in the future.

    I'd like to thank everyone for the support with this issue. In my opinion the outcome is positive, I hope that you all agree. Andy Rees did say that if at anytime fans have problems please email him.

    I will keep all of your emails and advsie again as and when I hear anything.

    Once again many thanks to you all. I think we've got the best result that we could have hoped for this season, and the promise of discussions for next season


    Best Regards,

    Steve Hodgkiss
     
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  12. qprbeth

    qprbeth Wicked Witch of West12 Forum Moderator

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    Well done Sussex...a sensible and fair outcome...as I would have expected.
    But as I said to you in the PM....be alert...next season is the dangerous one...that is when terms and conditions may change...over the summer when support cannot be galvanised so easily.

    But we'll done you...you held your corner..you got the result.
    Shame I won't see you on Sunday then...

    Come on u Rrrrs
     
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  13. Dens Hoops

    Dens Hoops Well-Known Member

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    Steve, I am delighted that you all got a positive result, and that the club is open to more talks come next season.
     
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  14. QPR999

    QPR999 Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    Good points Beth.

    I was at the meeting as well tonight. In all fairness to the club, and particularly Phil Beard and Andy Rees, they did hold their hands up to the fiasco of the Stoke game and admitted that they had made a huge mistake. They also said that the last thing they want is to alienate our loyal fans and will listen and act upon any reservations relating to our supporters attending games. This will also apply next season. It was quite apparent to me that Beard was more concerned with adults acquiring a free under 8's S/T and using it to get an adult in for free, instead of its intended purpose.
     
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  15. QPR999

    QPR999 Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    I must of course mention SussexR. He has done a tremendous job in collating and compiling a huge dossier on all things related to the LL, it's fans and its issues. I think that when we arrived and he plonked it on the table Phil Beard thought.. '' I'm not going to win against him and decided to hold his hands up.'' Well done Sussex, the meeting became a mere formality after that.
     
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  16. JudoRanger

    JudoRanger Well-Known Member

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    I think the result is an excellent one - for this season anyway.

    Fair play to the club for holding their hands up, and it does sound like they are at last listening to us. I don't think anyone has an issue with the club clamping down on adults entering on u8 tickets - that is not right. The rules they were trying to implement however don't solve that in the correct way.

    As Beth said, next season is the next thing to be concerned about.
     
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  17. QPR999

    QPR999 Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    Oh, and another thing. SussexR gave up his time to do all this on his birthday. Happy birthday mate :emoticon-0166-cake:
     
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  18. qprbeth

    qprbeth Wicked Witch of West12 Forum Moderator

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    Happy Birthday Sussex...should have guessed you were a Librian....always striving for justice and equality...
     
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  19. SussexR

    SussexR Well-Known Member

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    Thanks mate, but I think it was your moral support and the pre-meeting beer that did the trick.
     
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  20. SussexR

    SussexR Well-Known Member

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    Cheers mate, 21 again of course
     
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