I'm interested to know whether you've always been such a staunch defender of Hodgson, Diego, or whether this is just a convenient stick to lob at LFC. I can't be arsed to go searching for the evidence, but I'm sure you'll give me an honest reply.
This has f** all to do with Hodgson (though i suspect it does from your point of view). I am defending international managers who have a job to do (which people expect them to do well) but are torn apart for playing/not playing their best team in the 1 or 2 competetive games they have every few months. If we had cancelled the international fixtures this month would Brendan have rested Sterling, and more to the piont, if he had and you lost the games would you be happy? EDIT This is for you Saint, pressed reply instead of with quote
Perhaps you need to re-read the thread title? And most of the thread before you stuck your oar in. The thread was a response to Hodgson's undignified attempt to shift some of the blame for another inept performance onto one player. I look forward to seeing you give him your wholehearted support next time he screws one of yours.
Is that true? One...? So, if considering the groups that Giggs played in compared to this one England are in, which one needs their player more? PS...competitive is two i's, not two e's Fact is, every Joe Bloggs is going to moan about a player complaining they're tired since that player is doing most males dream job. However, he is still human. Clubs spend millions getting these players into peak condition, surely if they aren't tip top they shouldn't play? Obviously, with it being a Liverpool player we're going to be biased and say he's made the right call but I genuinely think he should be commended for admitting such a thing. Its not often I agree with Rio X but even he's said the same thing! Brod shouldn't have played Sterling against Boro, it was obviously he was flagging. there were a couple more games after that were he was very poor too. Maybe Woy is more forgiving than Brod? Maybe Sterling has told Brod he feels tired but our Brendan told him to get on with it? who knows eh?
Neither need the player once qualified or knocked out, before then they both need the player as much as each other
I understand the Liverpool point of view, and to be honest it's so set in stone that England players give **** all ****s for the England jersey, this player giving **** all ****s probably doesn't ****ing matter, because giving **** all ****s has seeped through to the fans, so just **** it... However... Valid point for me My brother is a teacher, and the other month he lined up members of his class who turned up late outside, and rollicked them for being late. They haven't been late since. Roy is a 90 year old transvestite, and so instead of throwing a rager, he's used the media. Liverpool fans think it's a disgrace, most others will probably understand Hodgson's motivations. In a hypothetical world where I give a ****, if Sterling was "too tired" (he played 45 mins vs SAN MARINO, right?!), he must have been too tired going into the first game. So he should have said something then and not been called-up . If he had said something, he would have come out and said so, thus he obviously didn't. "I'm a human being"... Yep, you've proved it by being a selfish jerk, rather than being tired. If I were England manager in this hypothetical world, I'd drop him to the U21s for the remainder of the tournament and have him sweating on his England future. Though to be fair, if I were England manager, I'd not play 4 ****ing defenders vs San Marino. It's borderline whether I'd play a goalie!!!! This attitude in general about England is spot on Fair point... But really Hodgson should be looking at certain players and asking each one the question "are you fully fit?". If the answer is anything less than yes, they should be dropped from contention. If they play for their club the following week, I'd be a petty bastard and drop them from the talent pool and force them to be my little bitch to worm their way back in... I like eye-contact please son! He would have been commended if he'd said it before being called-up, perhaps, but he didn't. Saying it after a less than taxing half against some part-timers is a bit suspicious though, and looks selfish and like he's the poly-synthetic puppet in a Rodgers vs Hodgson sex war. But that's the end of me giving two flying ****s about the international situation. Sterling needs to buck-up his ideas at club level, because he's been ****e so far compared with last season, so maybe this ****storm will help him push on to prove people wrong, or some ****.
But he didn`t, he stated why he never picked Sterling, i haven`t seen him blame anyone for the poor performance
It didn't take a genius to see he was in need of a break. The game against Basel he was abysmal! He wasn't much better against WBA either. Dropping him for the game against West Ham to then play him against Boro made very little sense to me. If I could be arsed, I'd go back and find quotes from myself that said he shouldn't have played against Boro or WBA.
First things first, there are millions of us so no matter what Woy does he's always going to be both wrong and right depending on the outcome of his decisions (ie results on the pitch). But what I find most annoying about all of this is public attitude. We hear people saying that players and managers have lost touch with the real world, they never give straight answers and they're all the same. Yet when one takes a different approach and speaks their mind they get lambasted for it. So what if Raheem said he's tired. Fair play to him for being honest so long as that's what he was doing rather than just trying to get out of playing (for which I applaud as a Liverpool fan ). So what if a manager choosing to drop a player because he thinks he's tired too, domestic managers do it all the time without questions. So, if its not a problem for player or manager to say it, what the **** is the problem here? Is it because the manager pushed the so-called blame onto the player? If so then again, so what? It would have been easier all round for Woy to say Lallana deserved to play after the midweek performance (I didn't watch it so couldn't say) but that falls back into players/managers so things for the camera rather than the truth.
Meh... Who cares? Sterling should have said something before call-up, and Roy Hodgson has the responsibility to ask... They're both ****ers (or boring bastards in England tops. Least Sterling is marginally less of a boring bastard when he takes his off)
He is such a ****ing antiquated old fool. http://www.express.co.uk/sport/foot...em-Sterling-tired-Roy-Hodgson-Brendan-Rodgers **** off Roy.
At which point we'd have the same club vs country argument; people saying Sterling doesn't care about England and only cares about playing for his club and others commending him for knowing he's not rfit enough to included in the squad giving others a chance. But the overriding thing that would happen in that situation is Woy picking him for the squad anyway, tired players don't miss out on international squad selections, and then not playing or playing (to test his resolve) and getting injured. What should of happen is that Woy should have said that after the San Marino game Sterling looked off the pace and off form, it was agreed by the staff and the player in a private conversation that Sterling wouldn't start against Estonia and Lallana, who looked fresher and ready to play would start. What Woy did was make it sound like he had no choice in the matter, that Sterling had come to him and demanded not to play cause he wanted a rest. Which has to be bollocks, Woy is the manager the buck stops with him.
is he right? No answer to that..as you've just pointed out it's risk vs reward. But my manager is in a much better position to judge those risks than Hodgeson since he works with the player every day. He's also the one who gets sacked if he loses the games whether Sterling is injured with LFC or with England. Hodgeson has much less responsibility in that he can injure Sturridge or sterling, bring on another player he didn't pay for and doesn't pay his wages to be injured and as long as he wins the next game he doesn't have to care about the player he injured. He can pick who he likes out of 5 or 6 strikers and will most likely defeat a San Marino or Estonia. BR on the other hand has to weigh up the risks of playing an out of form or unfit player and possible consequences with those of playing someone else and those set of consequences...but the consequences are his alone. Unfortunately the consequences of Hodgesons actions are BR's as well and he's currently hearing hodgeson state he knows how to treat BR's players better than he does..... So, BR risked Sterling in what if we had started well in the league wouldn't have been that important a game. But with our injuries, dreadful form and now the prospect of a giant killing to add to the negativity and pressure he gambled playing Sterling. Fairly sure if we'd gone 3 up in the first half he would have been off. And he did rest him at villa. Again we can discuss he picked the wrong matches to do or not to do it but then as I said he lives with the resulting consequences... I simply dont know how anyone without a tribal agenda can state that Hodgeson is in a better position to judge how to train and rest a club player than his club management team. It's a ludicrous proposition.
