Agreed. I think the three most recent are Wilshere, Walcott and Gibbs, they always seem to dip in and out of injury, which has severely disrupted us and their development. Let's not even start with Diaby, this guy alongside RVP, hold the most potential of all our players. I'd wager that if we kept those two playing constantly, then we would have won something a lot sooner. Rosicky was a shame as we missed 2-3 years of his solid prime with us.
I think Rosicky could have been a key player for us in his prime. As you say Diaby and RVP injury free would have been absolutely world class, and considering how close we were to winning things with an injury hit side with the likes of Denilson, Senderos, Silverstre, Gallas... in the team - then if we'd had just them two fit, we'd have done so much better. I think Ramsey would have been epic by now without that assault at Stoke, and would have had a season like last season probably 2 years before that, and continued in that vein.
The injury crisis is not as serious as it has been in previous years. Gnabry, Arteta, Walcott, Welbeck and Sanogo are all listed as fit for the Week-end against Hull, with Ramsey back on the 1st. I can't see anything about Diaby being injured as I think I saw inferred earlier in the thread. I'm not sure how fit they will all be, but they are coming back. I think right now very few players make it through a season uninjured, no matter what team they play for. Arsenal will play somewhere in the region of 60 games in a season (players play international games as well), and players seem to play around 40 on average, missing the rest (often) due to injury. Personally, I feel that it is the players that are to blame for this. They are so unhappy about being dropped for games, that they play themselves into the ground, don't report minor injuries and generally contribute to their own demise. I think the competition at Arsenal for places and the number of games, is what makes it a particular problem for us. Does Ramsey report a minor injury, or just that his leg is sore, knowing that if he is dropped he may not get back in the side? We know that players don't like squad rotation systems, particularly in England. We saw the outrage at Sterling asking to sit out because he was tired. I don't like him as a player, but I admire his courage, and I think he did exactly the right thing. This is a cultural thing in England, that a player ought to be able to play 60-70 games a season, but particularly with our high tempo game, I think that is far too many.
High tempo game? So you havent watched Arsenal play in the last 3-4 seasons then? Agree with everything else you have said though. The reason you get so many injuries has nothing to do with Arsenal playing a "high tempo game"
Clearly, it's all the players fault. Is this serious?? Why doesn't it happen at ANY other club then? Why have Arsenal been top for MANY SEASONS despite their relative lack of British players until the last couple of years??
It does happen at other clubs. Newcastle have had terrible injuries the last 2 seasons. United and Spurs have been up there as well. For many years only Diaby being crocked all year has kept us at the top of the table.
But we've had almost 100 more injuries than the second most inured club. Diaby has not had 100 injuries on his own.
Over what period? The injury league totals number of weeks injured in the season. last season we were top by 70 odd so obviously Diaby didn't do that all by himself, but 2012/13 we were third, 2011/2012 second and 2010/11 Second. In each case Diaby alone pushed us up several places, with his 30 or 40 weeks injured.
This is awesome..... TT is presented with a bunch of facts and is talking utter bullshit to try convince himself there isn't a problem. TT is now known as the Black Knight......"Its just a flesh wound". Whats all this....we were first, then third, then second........blah blah So you are in the top 3 every year? Out of 20 clubs? Blaming it on one player Its clear for all to see that you have had multiple Key personnel missing several times throughout the past couple seasons. **** weeks injured, look at how many players you have had out injured at any one time.... Look at your current predicament ffs, half your starting XI is out.......in October.....after less than 10 games played.... Your injury curse has hit overdrive this season, normally you aren't in this state until Feb/March!
Top 3 for at least the last 4 seasons (inc. the current one) and it's a freak occurrence? Even Wenger has admitted it's a problem, hence the new fitness coach. His success will depend upon how much influence he's allowed to have over training regime & rehab. So far, it's not looking good.
IF we intend to progress then we must tackle this issue now. No point in people making excuses when it's having a major negative impact on our team, year after year. Losing key players like Walcott for so so long has reduced our capacity to challenge. Right now we have Ozil, Ramsey, Giroud, Walcott, Arteta and Debuchy out. These are too many key players out to be able to sustain a premier league campaign. Notice these are KEY PLAYERS and not normal players! There are good players available to replace them but far too many first teamers are out. This isn't exactly a rare occurrence for us either. Sigh.
Also, in regard to this, how can you explain how Ozil has missed more games injured during his brief stint with Arsenal than during the whole of the rest of his career combined? Has he suddenly developed this "British mentality" of which you speak or is he being mis-trained and mis-managed?
This is one of your most ludicrous posts yet TT... I mean come on. Are you suggesting there is more competition for places at Arsenal than there is at United, Liverpool, Chelsea, City? Or that we play more games than them? Your assumption of knowing what players think and their general happiness is just unfounded guesswork. Courage? Let's see if he ever says it to his wage paying club before we say it's the right or courageous thing to do, rather than a thing he was asked to do by those that pay his wages. Still doesn't explain why Arsenal have had 100 more injuries than any other team in the premier league since 2002.
I wonder if our style of possession football does contribute to a higher level of injuries. We definitely have certain players who are kicked all over the pitch and teams do tend to get frustrated with not having the ball and lunge in more. I wonder if we can get some stats for which teams and players get fouled the most.
Utter bullshit, look at the possession stats for all of the top teams in Europe, most of them have a ****ton more possession than their opponents. If this were the case, Barcelona would top the injury list globally by a country mile, and Real Madrid wouldn't be far behind. More possession does not equal more injuries, and even if it did, who is the man who makes you play this way? SHAFT!! Nah Wenger
Maybe good he goes through this when he is injured: http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/w...e-shes-now-being-chased-on-facebook-by-an-ex/
