But what if me and Magic had jumped on Gerrez as well. You'd have been proper confused, thought he definitely wasn't the recruiter and you'd have had to change a if you didn't kill the recruiter you'd lose anyway
I still don't see how you fail to get it. The only ones who knew you and Sky were innocent were you and the KGB. You were obviously in a team, so your protestations of mutual innocence would 99% mark you out at the freemasons to the KGB, with two of the Mafia dead. So why did you not just tell the rest of the town who you were, having essentially told the KGB anyway? Had you done that, the game would have gone very differently, and would almost certainly have been a win for the town, what with Gerrez being so close to being targeted.
Your argument was we should of revealed ourselves day one... Now your saying we should of done it day two... Which we did... Edit: oh wait your replying to my reply to lucaaas not you. By the point lucaaas was still accusing us we knew hands down we were innocent, it wasn't in question anymore..
Tbh I don't think any Mafia or KGB would be stupid enough to whack the freemasons whilst being members of the freemasons. Besides which, the freemasons aren't really a threat to the KGB or Mafia, as they can just be watched and recruited (free from the risk of being killed by recruiting someone from the other side) if needed. As this game has shown, the KGB and Mafia win if they can eliminate the other side and the townies with roles. If I was KGB and found out who the freemasons were I'd just keep an eye on them and their plans. Draw on their intel to take out the other side and anyone with a role, then just leave them and recruit one of them if one of our side was taken out. The main benefit of the freemasons is that they can prove their innocence to the rest of the town, and thus narrow down the possibilities when trying to find the Mafia and KGB. If they don't prove their innocence at an opportune time then they are basically dividing the town in two, which puts them at a massive disadvantage.
Nope, gerrez was going to die. I'd selected my target and he was going to die either way! Me and danilo both thought he was the recruiter and he had to die. If you'd switched votes he would of just died without the need for a coin flip! I missed my chance to kill him on day one and with the game basically over and no-one playing properly I wanted to make sure we finished it by killing gerrez. Even if I was wrong I had decided he should die lol.
So not coming on until night (AFTER WORK) is suspicious behaviour?? Guess I might as well not bother joining the game if I'm going to be classed as guilty if I never come on during the day time. And I made a couple of jokey comments because it was obvious that what you were accusing me of (going quiet during the day) was something I could never change and would always make me look suspicious to you anyway. And I backed IBWT because he was the only guy that actually saved me, you on the other hand kept accusing me and trying to get me involved in the coin flips and then expected me to support your innocence??
So if with 30 minuets to go all 6 of us (including Gerrez) had picked him to be lynched, you'd have still thought he was the recruiter? I find that suspicious. If no one had changd with a minute to go, all 3 of us would have swapped to make it a 50/50 instead but I reckon you'd have changed by then already
If you don't think it's suspicious to caste a vote (that puts someone in the lead for the lynch) with literally no reason given, just a line saying "I vote xyz" before logging off and not checking the thread until right before nightfall and then still not explaining your vote. Then no wonder you consistently made moves that made you look suspicious throughout the game!
You should have revealed yourselves at the start of day two. Pretty much as soon as I posted that the two of you had obviously coordinated your votes towards the end of the day and nailed the Mafia. At that point, the connection was obvious and so with the Mafia gone the KGB would know exactly who you were. The only ones who couldn't be sure were the innocent townies, who were exactly the ones who would benefit from the knowledge. Not revealing yourselves until the end of day two just messed up the coin toss, as we didn't have a chance to actually think about who to put in there, so hash ended up in the toss as a last minute compromise. We basically lost a day of careful deliberation and ended up killing the journo as a result, when he could have found one of the Mafia and won us the game. The whole advantage of the freemasons, imo, is that they can reveal themselves as innocent, and thus take two people out of the coin toss in the early period whilst hunting down the KGB and Mafia. But if you play it too secretive then people will finger you as the KGB or Mafia, and that acts as a distraction. So reveal yourselves as soon as most of the assassinations are done and you are in any way under suspicion.
Nope, my early vote for gerrez was me putting down a marker. I had work today and knew I would likely only get odd moments to check how things where going and I wanted to make sure he was in the firing line. I've showed throughout both games I'm not adverse to just lynching someone on a hunch regardless of how people are playing things lol
Thanks milk, like I said above magic was less certain as from game 2 he might or might not have just turned in late but I wrote it down I've already said to bod on the mafia thread is no suspicisions on him nor billy at all Milk commented also and so did I that only once did people write a list down of ALL the people in the game and then question each Afc was one who did this but ended up voting on the guy in front of him not the guys not getting involved too much Just another thought.... As there's self back patting going on this is what I said pregame and in day one and what I was doing And if I'd been in game..... Honestly I'd have killed Lucaas too. I felt astro was innocent as he played each game differently but I thought he went against the innocent afc and so... Well it certainly gave the KGB a great set up
Sky revealed himself as soon as he got online on day two and said I was innocent which more than likely meant I was the Freemason. I didn't want to actually say it as that guaranteed the KGB knew who we where. Sky could still have been an investigator at that point and me revealing my role just helps them figure out exactly what roles we had. You had noticed the link day one which everyone else had missed. After sky outed himself the town should of immediately changed tact, but instead insisted on putting me up for the lynch just to check if sky was telling the truth about my innocence.... The town rather than using a bit of common sense insisted on me giving away my specific role before I'd be taken out of harms way. I had made it as obvious as possible without coming straight out with it that I was a Freemason and I think it was pretty bloody obvious before I came out and said it, given that sky had already told you.
Whilst I think IBWT played a great game with a very clever move to save lucaaas which made no end of confusion, I don't think the rest of the mafia did great My first KGB list prior to the mafia being killed off was Astro, gerrez and magic and by the last day of the game I'd come back to that with IBWT chucked in for good measure! Astro and lucaaas I think messed things up for the town but the main thing that helped the KGB was the luck of the game. Gerrez not dying first day, no townies turning up to vote on the last day, sky being inactive throughout so the only two who could vote together from the town side couldn't, RHC killing a random innocent for no reason and giving away his role for no reason etc.... Plenty of little lucky moments that set the game in the kgbs favour. Genuinely only impressed with IBWT from the KGB
