It blew my mind as a kid to know that the Sun we see in the sky is about 8 minutes old. Then to find out that the twinkle from some stars is light so far away that the stars themselves have already died. Then to find out all of this was created in the last 6000 years or so by God! School was great.
Wherever you are, the universe is expanding away from you as if you are its central point - **** you Copernicus, God is great!
You can't return to the past. But you can't escape it either. You kyboshed our chance of a decent FA Cup run last season. Revenge next weekend I hope.
I don't believe in any god but whatever the force (or forces) is out there that controls everything, it certainly is incredibly powerful.
Pictures from galaxies over the other side of the "known" Universe, proving your statement or GTFO. please log in to view this image
So your belief in some underlying creative intelligent sky fairy, is more acceptable than forces as yet unknown to science? (See, I'm quite willing to accept science doesn't know it all.) People like you through the ages always do the same. You will build structures to worship the invisible sky fairies so your crops don't fail. (If they had put as much effort into solving the crop problems, as they did into the buildings, there was a better chance of surviving.) The structures end up in ruins, when the builders die out because your crops have failed, as your faith has changed **** all, and the sky fairy has moved on. Belief in sky fairies has held back human development for thousands of years, deliberately so, in some institutional religions. When these religious institutions, get called on this in more enlightened times, their, the sky fairy works in mysterious ways claptrap always makes me laugh. They even killed people for pointing out that the bible was wrong, even when confronted with irrefutable evidence. I never get a clear answer to this from sky fairy believers. You say there has to be an underlying intelligence to everything. So please tell me where this came from? And I'm sorry, the standard always been there doesn't cut it.
I didn't say there "has to be" anything. I just try to keep an open mind. And I didn't mention religion, you did. Why are so many atheists so fanatical in their views?
Why are people who believe in mystical can't be proved powers, so often the first ones to claim that anyone correcting them, is a fanatic?
Apart from the fact "man" created the idea of there being a God? God is a belief system, it's as simple as that, based on nothing but make believe. If man hadn't invented God science wouldn't have to put forward anything to allow for God. It's like me saying at the farthest reaches of the Universe, there is a planet the exact copy of Earth and I'm there typing away on a forum at the exact same time having this exact same conversation. There's nothing that science has put forward that doesn't allow for what I'm saying being the truth. But intelligence tells intelligent people what I'm proposing is absolute bollox! Shameless's pic is spot on by the way. That is exactly how it is in the real World.
All we or Science know is that the subatomic world is a bit weird and the atom cannot be defined, just as current Science may never know if we live in a universe bubble, a future computer programme, or an infinite multiverse or even multi-dimensional one. Science also doesn't dismiss possibility of God or any of the above as potential definitions of our world. Also, Scientific doubt, including things that cannot be explained does not by default mean that God exists, which has been a Creationist argument with reference to the 'missing link' for decades. Just because you cannot disprove something doesn't mean it exists and Science has uncovered an increasing amount of corroborating evidence in support of Evolutionary Theory and today, it is considered to be most likely -true. By the same token Science also invites skepticism and can also define certain things that cannot be proven as unlikely such as extra-terrestial sex, the Tooth Fairy or ghosts and are therefore likely not true.. Science is evidence based and I have more faith in this than a man-made narrowly structured belief that is supported by a complete absence of evidence
Aye I agree like. The Santa story is about as plausible as the Bible. I mean ffs, some big fat twat with a big white beard, all dressed in red comes down your chimney. Not a bit of soot on his clothes or beard & then he go's off with his flying reindeer. Sounds just like the Bible to me. Just how many folk even have coal fires now.
Santa Claus is based on a real person, or a combination of real people, God was invented to explain the unexplainable, to ignorant Arab's, who would have thought the likes of Derren Brown as great mystics. If he said it was the power of God passing through him, they would have believed him Derren Brown makes it clear all he is doing is trickery and psychology. He is much better at it, than the so called psychics, yet point this out to someone who believes in psychics and they totally ignore the facts of the matter. They "want" to believe, you could have the psychic admit to them that they had tricked them and they would move onto the next psychic. Some people just have this inbuilt need to think and hope there is something more! It's not rational to those of us who want facts, but to them it is.
