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The Breakfast Debate

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  1. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member
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    Good Morning Everyone,

    Sky pundit Don Goodman, who in pre season tipped the Mighty Whites for relegation, has changed his mind <yikes>

    Goodman said: “I got dog’s abuse from some Leeds United fans because before a ball was kicked, I said they would struggle this season. “It was based on the chaos that was going on at the club and with the greatest of respect, a manager who had got sacked at Forest Green Rovers had been appointed.

    “But things have changed and if you are in the top half of the Championship, you aren’t going to be a million miles off the play-off spots. “I think if Leeds can be in the mix in the top half, they won’t be far off and that will represent a very good season, it really will.

    “Leeds need to consolidate, get a bit a stability in the club and kick on from there. “Stability and a top-half finish would be progress. And you never know, if they are in the top half with five or six games to go, they could just sneak a play-off spot. They would represent a really solid season.”


    The U21's trounced a very inexperienced Donny side last night 6-0 including goal from Mowatt, Adryan and a couple from Montenegro.

    That's 4 in 4 games for Montenegro. When is Darko going to give Adryan and Montenegro game time?



    Let's have a look at some stats where we need to improve.
    Does this surprise you?

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    [TD="align: center"] 2014-15 Championship[/TD]
    [TH="bgcolor: #999999 !important, align: center"]% of Fwd Passes[/TH]
    [TH="bgcolor: #999999 !important, align: center"]% of Final third passes[/TH]
    [TH="bgcolor: #999999 !important, align: center"]% of Pen area passes[/TH]
    [TH="bgcolor: #999999 !important, align: center"]Games[/TH]
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    [TR]
    [TH="bgcolor: #5F8829 !important, align: center"]Leeds[/TH]
    [TD="bgcolor: #CFE7B0 !important, align: center"]38%[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #CFE7B0 !important, align: center"]15%[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #CFE7B0 !important, align: center"]3%[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #CFE7B0 !important, align: center"]11[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TH="bgcolor: #6C9B2F !important, align: center"]Average[/TH]
    [TD="bgcolor: #E7F3D7 !important, align: center"]40%[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #E7F3D7 !important, align: center"]18%[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #E7F3D7 !important, align: center"]5%[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #E7F3D7 !important, align: center"]11[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [/TABLE]

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    [TD="align: center"] 2014-15 Championship[/TD]
    [TH="bgcolor: #999999 !important, align: center"]Shot acc[/TH]
    [TH="bgcolor: #999999 !important, align: center"]Set piece shot / game[/TH]
    [TH="bgcolor: #999999 !important, align: center"]Headed shot / game[/TH]
    [TH="bgcolor: #999999 !important, align: center"]Left foot shot / game[/TH]
    [TH="bgcolor: #999999 !important, align: center"]Right foot shot / game[/TH]
    [TH="bgcolor: #999999 !important, align: center"]Games[/TH]
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    [TR]
    [TH="bgcolor: #5F8829 !important, align: center"]Leeds[/TH]
    [TD="bgcolor: #CFE7B0 !important, align: center"]29%[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #CFE7B0 !important, align: center"]0.82[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #CFE7B0 !important, align: center"]0.73[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #CFE7B0 !important, align: center"]2.55[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #CFE7B0 !important, align: center"]6.45[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #CFE7B0 !important, align: center"]11[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TH="bgcolor: #6C9B2F !important, align: center"]Average[/TH]
    [TD="bgcolor: #E7F3D7 !important, align: center"]30%[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #E7F3D7 !important, align: center"]1[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #E7F3D7 !important, align: center"]2.33[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #E7F3D7 !important, align: center"]4.33[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #E7F3D7 !important, align: center"]6.91[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #E7F3D7 !important, align: center"]11[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [/TABLE]

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    [TD="align: center"] 2014-15 Championship[/TD]
    [TH="bgcolor: #999999 !important, align: center"]Error Lead To Shot / game[/TH]
    [TH="bgcolor: #999999 !important, align: center"]Duel Lost / game[/TH]
    [TH="bgcolor: #999999 !important, align: center"]Head Clearance / game[/TH]
    [TH="bgcolor: #999999 !important, align: center"]Fk Foul Lost / game[/TH]
    [TH="bgcolor: #999999 !important, align: center"]Total Yellow / game[/TH]
    [TH="bgcolor: #999999 !important, align: center"]Total Red Card / game[/TH]
    [TH="bgcolor: #999999 !important, align: center"]Games[/TH]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TH="bgcolor: #5F8829 !important, align: center"]Leeds[/TH]
    [TD="bgcolor: #CFE7B0 !important, align: center"]0.27[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #CFE7B0 !important, align: center"]55.91[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #CFE7B0 !important, align: center"]14.73[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #CFE7B0 !important, align: center"]12[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #CFE7B0 !important, align: center"]1.82[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #CFE7B0 !important, align: center"]0.27[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #CFE7B0 !important, align: center"]11[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TH="bgcolor: #6C9B2F !important, align: center"]Average[/TH]
    [TD="bgcolor: #E7F3D7 !important, align: center"]0.14[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #E7F3D7 !important, align: center"]54.88[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #E7F3D7 !important, align: center"]16.23[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #E7F3D7 !important, align: center"]11.46[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #E7F3D7 !important, align: center"]1.75[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #E7F3D7 !important, align: center"]0.06[/TD]
    [TD="bgcolor: #E7F3D7 !important, align: center"]11[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [/TABLE]


     
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  2. ellandback

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    We're well ahead on red cards at least <ok>
     
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  3. Eireleeds1

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    Mornin Elland and co. Far too early in the morning for me to make sense of stats. Good mans comments represent what most pundits tend to do. They're usually a couple of months behind what's going on. During a phone in last week, a Leeds fan asked Brian Kerr what he thought of the goings on at Leeds. He clearly knew nothing but decided to waffle on about the dire circumstances we were in. Obviously the scraps he picked up during the summer. Not too bothered what any of them think as none were capable of questioning either bates or Gfh during their tenures. I find the comments of fans on forums such as this one, that attend games, far more informative. They tend to tell it as it is. Twitter is probably more accurate than anything goodman would have to say
     
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  4. leeds60

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    Good morning to MATT and co from a very dull Cote de Bardsey,where has the sun gone?
    Adryan had a very good game last night scoring one and making one for Hunt whilst Brian Montengro scored twice so thats 4 in 4 games for him so I can,t see how they will not be playing in Rotherham
    A disturbing development has been reported in the YEP Warnock who has been playing really well had appealed to the FA over his treatment by the club particularly Cellino who appears to want him to leave to save his wages sorry MC but you are undoing all the good work you have done just show some loyalty to your staff
    I agree that we need stabilty and a time to gell now and this action by our chairman will have the reverse effect so swallow your pride for once and pay the lad at least he his trying and working hard for the team unlike Hunt who should be got rid of
    mike
     
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  5. ellandback

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    Morning Eire,

    To some degree, unless you're in the Prem, you're largely ignored, or labelled for your stereotypical past?
     
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  6. ellandback

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    Morning Mike, blue sky's in Southampton pal.

    Donny's team was very poor last night. They were playing largely with 1st years. Their keeper was only 16.
     
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    THE FUTURE OF Stephen Warnock at Leeds United has been cast into renewed doubt amid reports he has contacted the Professional Footballers&#8217; Association regarding concerns about his treatment at the club.

    The 32-year-old has surprisingly found himself demoted to the bench for United&#8217;s last two matches, despite arguably being the club&#8217;s stand-out player alongside keeper Marco Silvestri in the opening quarter of the 2014-15 campaign.

    Back in the summer, Warnock, among the highest earners at Leeds with his contract not expiring until June 2015, was told he was free to leave if he could find another club, with owner Massimo Cellino keen to get him off the wage bill.

    It is claimed that Cellino allegedly tried to instigate Warnock&#8217;s substitution during in the 4-1 loss at Watford on August 23, but his phone call to the dug-out was ignored by former head coach David Hockaday.

    Last Friday, new head coach Darko Milanic attempted to fend off questions on the influence of Cellino on first-team selection matters by stating he had full control over team affairs.

    Milanic stressed that tactics and formations were &#8220;my decision&#8221; and claimed discussions with Cellino about United&#8217;s squad were &#8220;not in detail&#8221; after the surprise inclusion of central defender Liam Cooper at Warnock&#8217;s expense at left-back in the goalless draw with Reading.
     
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  8. Elland_Heaven

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    Morning all.

    Some people are starting to take note that we do have some decent players then!

    Just having a quick check on Sky Bet and we're still 8-1 to finish top six and 18-1 to be promoted.

    Not bad considering that points wise we're by no means miles off the pace, especially after last night's performance with the three players yet to feature for the first team.
     
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    Matt you are a mountain of knowledge which I for one appreciate I didnt realise we were playing Rovers junior team no wonder Hunt scored!Maybe Donnie will take him they took Barn door Billy!
     
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  10. Chippy / Glory

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    Why are we not debating the great SBA scandal?
     
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    Enlighten me Glory
     
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    Morning all <ok>

    On the Warnock front YP journalists now saying he hasn't complained to PFA about it, but him and his agent (who is something to do with PFA) have had a meeting with Cellino to discuss how unhappy he is at not playing.

    That seems a bit of a drastic step to take after missing 2 games doesn't it? Don't get me wrong I absolutely think that Warnock should have been in the team, but there has to be more to it to cause all of this?
     
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    [video]https://v.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/1B7D5975E71131008615747133440_149f033de26.3.2.mp4? versionId=lQUnR0zhgqJyejUTHO5zq4kYVJ8kqTn4[/video]

    Adryan's goal from last night
     
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    What about Brians goals Matt
     
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    scurrilous allegations of impropriety against MillwallSteve by Elland and Norman........

    increasing in virulence by the minute....

    Elland and Norman are the Ebola virus of this forum.....

    WARNING: Do not go near them, they will infect you with their views
     
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    We've got a fair few youngsters coming through the ranks.

    Cook, Dawson, Mowatt are all asking questions of Milanic.

    Bianci is one of our most consistant players this season

    Austin seems to have a new lease of life since being dropped for a couple of games

    Murphy, doesn't he deserve a chance?

    Montenegro and Adryan. Both have impressed for the u21, and also need game time.


    Our midfield looks strong all of a sudden.

    What is our best formation?
     
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