Think it's pretty obvious that the second Newcastle goal came from Fernandez diving in to a challenge on the wing. If he stays on his feet and shepherds him to the byline, Taylor gets across, we double team him and the cross probably doesn't come in. However, Taylor did have a shocker. The amount of times he passed back to Williams when Ki or Shelvey were standing open in the centre circle. Are we not telling him to look for that pass in training? It kills momentum ALL the time to constantly go back to the centre backs.
Wow. You are letting the ones to blame off for free? The fault for both goals came from amateur defending in the centre.
Disagree on the first. Taylor should not have let that pass get into the box. That and the fact he can only pass the ball backwards kills any tempo or attempts at counter attacks. On today's performance Ash is lucky that Amat is injured because I'd play Amat and Fernandez next game.
So for the first the ball going straight to the central defender who is beaten physically by a weedy striker is not a cause for concern? In football we tend to get very concerned about such a poor show of ability.
Im with Project, how the hell our 2 center backs get beaten so easily by Cisse was shocking. The first, how the hell do you allow the striker run across the front of you = piss poor defending. The second, well the less said about that the better. That does not excuse Taylor, but come on, the crosses were nothing special and should have been dealt with.
Football is a game of positions, but it's more complex than that. It was Fernandez defending the left side for the second goal. Because of the way that Newcastle's attack formulated, Taylor was pulled further inside and Fernandez went out to the wing to close down Sammy Ameobi. That happens all the time in football. Not anyone's fault. You prepare for position changes like this in training. But Fernandez didn't close him down. He dived in recklessly and gave Ameobi a decade and a day to pick his cross. He did and they scored. Furthermore, Fernandez diving in like that also meant that he had NO chance of getting back to the box in time for the cross. With only one centre back in the box, it's a hell of a lot easier for Cisse to find space. Criticise Taylor when it's due, but don't just say "it came from the left so it's Taylor's fault".
The first goal shouldn't have happened because Taylor should have stopped the block in the first place. Defensively as a unit, we were piss poor again today.
The fact is, we were killing Newcastle until 70-75 minutes. Why Monk waited for Newcastle to get back into the game before making a substitution is beyond me. If you bring Montero on and possibly Gomis at 55-60 minutes, Newcastle would have had no choice but retreat even further than they already were. Football, as well as a physical game, is a mental one. If you make attacking substitutions at 2-1 after you've just scored and are totally on top, the opposition s**t themselves and get ready to shut up shop. You can always make a more defensive substitution if the tide begins to turn later in the game. This was Newcastle. A team devoid of confidence. If we can't make an attacking substitution against these lot and consolidate a win, who can we do it against?
Well he got turned inside out for the first goal, stands off his man leaving plenty of room to get a cross in. Why not go tighter and close the space, thus making it more difficult to get a cross in. That to me IS Taylors fault.
The first goal is Williams mistake imo. Taylor got across and forced Obertan into a very weak cross. Yet Cisse still managed to get across Williams to poke it home. Second goal was a poor slide from Fernandez, but then Williams decided to stand in his own position even though it was glaringly obvious there was a massive hole behind him, he should have took up their only man in the box. That said Taylor was still pretty crap today. Was better in the second half but not by much and not enough. Jazz had a great game imo, him and Rangel for fullback next match. But the real blame for today falls on the manager. As inept as Pardew is, he actually managed to show Monk up today. He changed the shape of the team to go for the win, taking more risks at the back. What does Monk do to counter this? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Take advantage of their weaknesses. Bring on Montero and watch him tear them a new one. Our players were blatantly coming off the gas. Dyer was starting to make little niggly fouls which is a clear sign that he is getting tired. But no, he waits, waits until it all goes tits up. THEN he finally decides on 85 minutes to make a sub. Now, at this stage when it was looking clear we needed a goal, the logical choice would have been to bring off dyer for Montero (which he did), then take of Shelvey as he had been piss poor all game with his stupid ****ing hollywood balls and bring on Gomis. Leave Ki in the defensive role, pull siggy slightly back and unleash Gomis and Bony on their depleted defense. That to me would have been the logical choice. But no. Instead he decides to not only bring off the man responsible for making our first two goals, but he decides to replace him with ****ing Emnes. Now dont get me wrong I like the guy, but his ability is not even close to the likes of Gomis or Bony. When we are desperate for a goal, why why why oh ****ing why do you leave a french international striker on the bench and bring on a good championship player at best? Jesus ****ing wept! Substitutes are there to be used to benefit the team as players tire. You can't expect to play a full 90 minutes with the same players then be surprised that we fall off the boil towards the end. Absolutely ridiculous. If this was a one time thing I can sort of understand as he may be trying something new. But its not. Its happening far to often and it is costing us points. Garry Monk stop being so naive and ****ing wake up to the premier league!
I didn't mention the first goal. That was Taylor's fault. But you hung both goals on Taylor's neck unjustly. So I was pointing out that, specifically, the second goal was not his fault just because it came down his 'side'.
Additionally, two wonder saves from Krul from Bony's shots, Ki's mis-controlled attempt from a Gylfi free-kick (the second one) and Routledge's ripper that flew just over. In some ways, despite our shortcomings today, we can curse our luck...
That adds up to our frustrations, we concede two very sloppy goals and have plenty of chances to win the game. All bar some quality saves from Krul we would have been out of sight. That save from Bony second half was top draw, he saves them from going 3-1 down and 1 minute later balls in the back of our net!!! Grrrrrrrr
That's what I felt when leaving the Liberty, Siggy is not worth 90 minutes, and should have been subbed for Emnes at 60 minutes, and Monty on at 70minutes. Monk needs a kick up the arse regarding his timing of subs, everyone around me (East Stand Lower) were asking why he was so late with the subs?......
Agree completely, Monk has got to wake up with his substitutions and timing, hopeless he is at the minute.............
Absolute rubbish! I'm no fan of Shelvey, but today he had a great game, and very few of his passes went astray, the weak link for us up front was Siggy, and I would have benched him for Emnes at 60 minutes!.............
Just got in and yet again we made a piss poor team look like world beaters. Even the Toon fans were chanting that they were ****. As others have said, amongst the defensive cock ups we lacked any intensity and looked lethargic. Our arrogance when we get our noses in front translates into a reluctance to get forward and put the game out of sight. Let's just knock the ball around fifty times between the back four in our half, that'll do. Then we let a player who's hardly been able to hit a barn door for two seasons score two against us. On the bright side, Ki was excellent despite missing a sitter and there were some decent performances from quite a few of or lads. It's just that overall we lacked intensity and desire. As Captain, Williams has to take some responsibility for that imo. But Monk's substitutions were well off again. Too little and too ****ing late. When will he learn? Fans around me were shouting for subs with 25 minutes to go. Montero would have run riot imo. Monk - time to wake up and stop playing safe. You have to get those things right and you are costing us points!
