Will QPR and Burnley go straight back down? Are we already waving goodbye to QPR and Burnley? Date: 2nd October 2014 at 6:55 pm Written by Richard Oses | The Premiership can be a cruel mistress when it comes to exposing the lack of quality in a side that has just gained promotion from the Championship. Last season both Burnley and QPR looked like they found it easy to negotiate the challenges of gaining promotion â especially the Clarets, who came up automatically via a second place finish. The gulf in quality between the two leagues can be quite an eye opener at times, especially with teams that find it too much of a struggle in the top flight and tend to go straight back down. West Brom struggled with it for a long time, while Cardiff proved a perfect example after their long awaited debut in the top league ended with a massive crash back down to the Championship last term. There are many more teams that fall into this category, despite a few of them defying logic and fending well for themselves like, like Stoke City and Swansea. But for the likes of Burnley and QPR, is there much more to hope for than just the one season of glory, pitting themselves against the big teams and gaining some extra revenue before tumbling back to where they came from? Can they ever set their heights any higher? Some do and fail. Look at Portsmouth, for example. They enjoyed a speedy promotion in their title winning season under Harry Redknapp, followed by a few years in the big time and an FA Cup triumph. But time soon caught up with them and they find themselves competing in the lower echelons of English football once more. It seems that there are certain clubs that, with respect, simply do not belong in the top tier of football. This is through no wrong doing of their own, though. It is more to do with the financial side of the game. Newcastle and West Ham, two teams that were recently relegated but came back up and have stayed up ever since, are established and well financed football clubs. They have big enough stadiums to generate a big enough revenue to be financially sound enough to get things right in the top-flight, which is what a lot of clubs that play in the lower leagues simply do not have. When a smaller club tries to invest heavily and above their means on players after a promotion, it tends to come back and bite them. QPR themselves came back up once already and went back down, despite heavy investment in the transfer market. They have repeated this approach this time around at the risk of breaching serious FFP regulations and getting in serious trouble. And for what? They are struggling big time so far this season and despite the fact it is still early days, they look set to be in a relegation scrap throughout the entire campaign. Burnley have not spent as much money, but that in itself has also proved to be a negative thing. They have a fantastic squad of players who are capable of dominating the Championship and playing a brand of football that was quite entertaining last season. However, the same squad of players find themselves completely swamped and out of their depths in the Premiership, which was highlighted all too painfully by their capitulation at the hands of fellow strugglerâs West Brom. There is not much anyone at Burnley has done wrong. They simply are not a big enough club to compete in the Premier League and it isnât a reflection on anything other than they are just one of those teams that do well from playing in the lower leagues. Out of QPR and Burnley, the latter look the more likely to face the trap door in May, but both sidesâ chances of surviving the drop this season. It looks like six games in, it may already be too late for them both.
It's a fair assessment based on our performances so far, we have to improve dramatically, playing similar to the 2nd half at Saints to have any chance of staying up. How many times do we have to get it right in the 2nd half before we eventually get it right from the start? It will cost us. Burnley, without their injured strikers, look doomed...
Six games is far too short to make any substantive prediction. Typical journalistic clap-trap. Filling column inches for the sake of it.
What a load of bollocks. Mr Oses can't even write a proper sentence! I have taken the time to read a few of this numpty's "articles" and they aren't very good. We must remember that most of the articles that come out now are from nobodies who want to be sports journalists and publish their crap on click bait web sites which have only a small readership. The idea is to prove to the big boys that their work is being published. I rarely read anything on any of these types of sites that isn't QPR related and even than only when it has been flagged up on Newsnow. The fact that this idiot is a West Ham fan publishing crap just before his team play QPR shouldn't be lost. Of course it is not too late for either QPR or Burnley. After 6 games? You are having a laugh. We know we have little chance of being in the top ten come May 2015, but to write off any team at this stage of the season is pathetic.
It's an extremely informative and insightful piece of journalism in my opinion, it can be summarised in just one line though; some promoted teams stay up and some do not.
Yes, we are in a relegation struggle. We knew this would happen. There are 13 other teams that are in this dog fight, teams that at this stage are looking for nothing more than 40 points. Do Southampton think they're already in the Champions League or are they more concerned about doing a Blackpool? The big club security aspect doesn't hold - if Newcastle and West Ham are so well equipped to stay up then why did they get relegated in the first instance? With only a few teams that are ever present (Villa, Everton, the old Big Four...?) that have a mixture of scraping survival, financial backing and being in the right place during the Premiership boom, there remains a significantly larger group that are always in the mix and a host of "big" clubs that are firmly entrenched in the leagues below, that looks unlikely to change. We are part of the vulnerable group, probably will be for the duration of our time in the top flight and will aspire to be back in that group when we're not. It's a group with dozens of members and I can't see that us and Burnley need to be singled out on the strength of six games.
A wannerbee journalist writing the kind of crap that he thinks will make a good story, has he written anything about the basket case that is Newcastle at the moment? As Matt has said above there will be 13 clubs scraping to avoid being in the bottom 3 come May, the exceptions being City, Chelsea, Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal, Everton, Spurs..... Saints have started well but what if they lose 6 on the trot, same with Swans, started well but only 1 point from last 9......way too early for this sort of piece on just us and Clarets......
As a good friend of mine would say...... He's just a pontificating prick that likes the look of his own words. It's way to early for clap trap of that sort.
Just wanted to add that it'd the same for the other teams fans that come here and say similar things. There are still a lot of points to be played for. Come talk to me at the end of Feb. That's a far better time to start talking of being cut adrift.
At the same stage last year (after 6 games) the bottom 3 were: 18. Fulham 4pts 19. Crystal Palace 3pts 20 Sunderland 1pt. Norwich were 14th with 7 points Cardiff were 11th with 8 points. ... and we know which three were eventually relegated.
Which on current form gives us a total of 26 points. But win a West Ham gets us back on track. 12 games.
The author comes across like an 8 year old who's only just started following football, discovered that fact and is trying to make some sense of it. Sooper, your reading material has to be upped a notch if you think that passes for anything better than pathetic.
If we're bottom with a 5 point gap to 19th and 15 point gap to 17th at Christmas. then I'll admit it looks grim. Long way from that right now though. We've played two of the big 6 away from home, we could say they are going to be 2 of the hardest test we may face this season. So that's 2 out of the 6 games so far we could not have expected anything. So that 4 points from 4 games we might have expected something in. Not setting the world alight but not that bad either. Only a little improvement from there and we could just about stay up, a big improvement and I think we will be quite safe by the end of the season. Of course it may not improve and we'd be buggered but I truly don't think the gulf is that great between us and the other clubs in the bottom 10 place of the league. I do think we've suffered from the wrong mentality at times. But if something finally clicks, we could find ourselves much safer in short space of time. A run of 3 wins and 3 draws in 6 games can cause you to jump quite a few places in the prem, especially at this stage of the season. Just my rambling thoughts but seem worth saying. In keeping with Matts thread, just trying to be optimistic rather than pessimistic.
Well put. Obviously it would be nice to be safe by April but that does not seem likely just yet on present performance.
