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1st July 1916 - Battle of the Somme. Lest We Forget.

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  1. Medro

    Medro Well-Known Member

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    On this day 95 years ago the allied forces lost 57,470 brave men, including 19,240 British and Irish in the Battle of the Somme.

    By the end of the Battle in November 1916, the allied forces casulty numbers had risen to about 620,000 with roughly another 150,000 missing.

    Those men give their life for the civil liberties that so many in this country take for granted these days.

    Lest We Forget.
     
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  2. The Ginger Marks

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    All because field marshall Haigh wanted to move his drinks trolley half inch nearer to Berlin.<grr>

    Somme you win Somme you lose :(
     
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  3. The Raging Oxter

    The Raging Oxter Well-Known Member

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    Careful Ginger. This wee 606 wum prick will throw a hissy fit if you make jokes.
     
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  4. Otto Flayshow

    Otto Flayshow Well-Known Member

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    Bollocks. They gave their lives because they were sheep and didn't have the wherewithal to kick out a government who dragged the country into an unnecessary war. Plus ça change..
     
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  5. lone ranger

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    WW1 was an ideological battle as much as anything else. i seem to remember that the kaiser said after the german advances that this proved that democracy was a failed idea
     
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  6. Zico

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    So ****
     
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  7. The Raging Oxter

    The Raging Oxter Well-Known Member

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    Britain was still in a colonisation frame of mind going into the Great War and had to be seen as a strong military force in much the same way that the US does today. Plus there were all those working class men with nothing to do so what better than to send them off to war and die?
     
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  8. Girvan Loyal 1690

    Girvan Loyal 1690 Nobody's safe now

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    what does all that matter? people died for the country. have a bit of respect
     
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  9. Medro

    Medro Well-Known Member

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    One of the few divisons to make advancements on the first day was the proud Ulstermen of the 36th Divison.

    107th Brigade

    15th (Service) Battalion (North Belfast), the Royal Irish Rifles
    8th (Service) Battalion (East Belfast), the Royal Irish Rifles
    9th (Service) Battalion (West Belfast), the Royal Irish Rifles
    10th (Service) Battalion (South Belfast), the Royal Irish Rifles
    1st Battalion, the Royal Irish Fusiliers
    1st Battalion, the Royal Irish Rifles
    2nd Battalion, the Royal Irish Rifles
    107th Brigade Machine Gun Company
    107th Trench Mortar Battery

    108th Brigade

    9th (Service) Battalion, the Royal Irish Fusiliers
    12th (Service) Battalion (Central Antrim), the Royal Irish Rifles
    2nd Battalion, the Royal Irish Rifles
    11th (Service) Battalion (South Antrim), the Royal Irish Rifles
    13th (Service) Battalion (County Down), the Royal Irish Rifles
    1st Battalion, the Royal Irish Fusiliers
    108th Brigade Machine Gun Company
    108th Trench Mortar Battery

    109th Brigade

    9th (Service) Battalion (County Tyrone), the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers
    10th (Service) Battalion (Derry), the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers
    11th (Service) Battalion (Donegal and Fermanagh), the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers
    14th (Service) Battalion (Young Citizens), the Royal Irish Rifles
    1st Battalion, the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers
    2nd Battalion, the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers
    109th Brigade Machine Gun Company
    109th Trench Mortar Battery

    Lest We Forget.
     
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  10. Zico

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    All wars are money-making scams by the powers that be. Vietnam has got to be the best example of that.
    Human life is ****-all compared to profit for some.
     
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  11. Zico

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    Jesus Christ <doh>
     
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  12. Medro

    Medro Well-Known Member

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    Lest We Forget Zico, your views and opinions mean nothing compared to the men that gave their life 95 years ago today.
     
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  13. lone ranger

    lone ranger Active Member

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    i'd disagree as at the beginning of the war the UK was on the defensive and although an arms race with germany had been going on for years our armed forces at the time were relatively small. i think the aims of politicians at the time became more imperialistic as the war went on so that their objectives went from survival to expansion.

    and dont knock a decent world war, its what we need right now. full employment!
     
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  14. MrT

    MrT Well-Known Member

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    My great-grandfather served and lost a leg in the somme. Never talked about his experiences.

    It's important to remember history so we don't make the same mistakes again.......
     
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  15. Jip Jaap Stam

    Jip Jaap Stam General Chat Moderator
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    I don't think can apply to WW2. A true battle of good vs evil if ever there was one.

    WW1 made the current conflict in Afghanistan, where every single life lost is honoured, look like a playground tiff, as thousdands of lives a day were snuffed out. And its fallen shouldn't be mocked, however idiotic the commanding officers and politicians involved were <grr>
     
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  16. Otto Flayshow

    Otto Flayshow Well-Known Member

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    Leave the blind, misty-eyed patriotism to the Americans. They're good at it. Zico is alive and his opinions are therefore infinitely more important than a pile of rotting bones in a field.
     
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  17. Medro

    Medro Well-Known Member

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    <applause>
     
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  18. Medro

    Medro Well-Known Member

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    Horrible comment.

    You do realise that no doubt you too could possibly have ancestors that died in World War 1 or The Battle of Somme itself.

    Show a bit of respect.
     
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  19. Zico

    Zico Active Member

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    Medro does this kind of post as a windup, it's pathetic.
    Next he'll jump on his moral high-horse and claim I'm disgusting for even suggesting this.

    Grow the **** up
     
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  20. PointyBirds

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    They're not our mistakes to make.
    If you think remembering a war will prevent one in the future, you're sorely mistaken.

    What is this maudlin nonsense? My grandfather was an Italian-Scot. He spent the majority of the war as a P-O-W after the community he'd served for years turned on him and his like. He never harboured a grudge and he never mentioned his experiences. Never. Stop bin-raking. Leave the past in dignified silence. This kind of moping does noone any good.
     
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