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Tottenham Hotspur v Southampton Match History 1893-2014

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    Tottenham Hotspur host Southampton at White Hart Lane on Sunday 5th October 2014 (KO 14:05) in the 7th round of 2014-15 Premier League matches.

    Spurs come into the game in 8th place on 8 points with the Saints in 2nd place on 13 points. This will be the 183rd time the two teams have met each other with Spurs having won the last four straight Premier League matches.

    Spurs and Southampton were two of England's top teams at the start of the 20th Century with the Saints reaching the 1900 & 1902 FA Cup Finals and Spurs going one better by winning the competition in 1901, thus becoming the only non-League club to achieve the feat since the formation of the Football League in 1888-89.

    The first meeting between the clubs came in December 1893 and the friendly finished as a 1-0 win to Southampton, Four more friendlies were played over the next four years and the first competitive match was played in March 1897 with Southampton drawing their home Southern League fixture 1-1 and Spurs drawing their home fixture 2-2 a month later.

    The clubs were regular opponents in both the Southern League and Western League until 1908, when Tottenham switched to become a Football League club. Those non-League encounters were usually hard fought affairs and Southampton had slightly the better of things overall.

    The first FA Cup encounter between the clubs came in January 1902 with holders Spurs held 1-1 in the 1st Round (today's 3rd Round) at White Hart Lane. The replay was also drawn 2-2 and a second replay was held at Elm Park, Reading with Southampton winning 2-1. The Saints made it all the way to the Final that season before losing to Sheffield United in a replay.

    Tottenham played Southampton four times during World War One in the London Combination and won three of those games to Southampton's one. The Spurs home games were played at Highbury and Homerton, as White Hart Lane had been taken-over by the army.

    Southampton, who were founded in 1885 started-out as St. Mary’s Church Young Men’s Association and moved to The Dell in 1898, joined the newly-formed Football League Division Three in season 1920-21 and won promotion to Division Two at the first attempt. They remained in the Second Division for 31 consecutive seasons.

    The first League meeting between Tottenham and Southampton came in September 1928 with Spurs drawing 1-1 at The Dell and winning 3-2 at White Hart Lane in January 1929.

    The clubs played a further eight seasons in Division Two prior to World War Two and Spurs won 9 and drew 3 of the 18 games played during this period. Ten games were played during World War Two with Spurs winning five, Southampton winning two and three games drawn.

    The first of three key player transfers from Southampton to Tottenham came in 1949 when right-back Alf Ramsey joined Spurs. The General would become a huge part of Spurs successive Second and First Division Championship winning teams in the early 1950's and play for England 32 times.

    Tottenham and Southampton resumed their matches in Division Two in the four seasons after World War Two before Spurs won promotion to Division One for the 1950-51 season. There was also an FA Cup 6th Round match in January 1948 at the Dell which Spurs won 1-0.

    Southampton won promotion to the First Division in season 1966-67 for the first time in their history and Spurs won both fixtures 5-3 at home and 1-0 away. The Saints kept their First Division status until season 1973-74.

    The second key transfer came in January 1968 when Spurs bought Southampton centre forward Martin Chivers for a then British record fee of £125,000. Spurs striker Frank Saul moved in the opposite direction as part of the deal. Big Chiv took a while to find his form, partnering first Jimmy Greaves and later Alan Gilzean but once he came back from a broken leg, he became England's finest attacker in the early to mid-1970's.

    October 1968 saw the first Football League Cup match between the clubs and Spurs won the 5th Round match 1-0 at the Lane.

    Tottenham were relegated for season 1977-78 and both Second Division matches with Southampton ended as 0-0 draws, the latter giving both clubs promotion to the First Division, along with Champions Bolton Wanderers. The 28 games played in Division One from 1978-79 to 1991-92 resulted in 12 wins for Tottenham, 9 wins for Southampton and 7 draws. During this period, the clubs met twice in the FA Cup with a win apiece and once in the League Cup with a win for the Saints. There were also two games played in the Screen Sports Super Cup, a competition which took the place of European matches for English clubs which were banned.
    Spurs won both of these games 2-1 at home and 3-1 away.

    Both Tottenham Hotspur and Southampton were founder members of the Premier League in 1992-93, but the Saints were relegated at the end of the 2004-05 season. Spurs have the edge during these encounters with 14 wins to 10 with 5 matches drawn. The very first Premier League game for both clubs was a 0-0 draw on 15th August 1992 at The Dell. A fifth round FA Cup replay in March 1995 saw an amazing hat-trick by Ronnie Rosenthal to give Spurs a 6-2 win. Southampton won the last FA Cup meeting in January 2003 4-0 at St. Mary's Stadium, which had become the Saints new home in August 2001.

    In May 2007, Spurs secured the services of the third key player from Southampton when Welsh left-sided player Gareth Bale was signed initially for £5,000,000 with an additional £2,000,000 paid in add-ons. Tottenham's Spanish attacking midfielder Iago Falque was loaned to the Saints, who won promotion back to the Premier League as runners-up in the 2011-12 Championship.

    The Premier League match at St. Mary's Stadium in October 2012 resulted in a 2-1 win for Spurs. Gareth Bale opened the scoring after 15 minutes with Clint Dempsey adding a second for Spurs after 39 minutes. The Saints second half goal was scored by Jay Rodriguez. Gareth Bale scored the only goal in the game at White Hart Lane in May 2013.

    The first game in charge of Spurs for Tim Sherwood came in December 2013 at Southampton and the Saints took a 13th minute lead through Adam Lallana but Emmanual Adebayor levelled in the 25th minute. Jos Hooiveld scored an own goal to put Spurs 2-1 up before Rickie Lambert equalised in the 59th minute. The winning goal for Tottenham came from Adebayor five minutes later.

    Jay Rodriguez and Adam Lallana put the Saints two goals up within half an hour at White Hart Lane in March 2014 but Christian Eriksen goals either side of halftime and a Gylfi Sigurdsson late winner gave Spurs all three points and a second successive League Double over Southampton.

    During the Summer of 2014, Tim Sherwood was sacked as Spurs manager and replaced with Mauricio Pochettino from Southampton.

    Overall, Spurs have won 79, Southampton have won 58 and 45 of the 182 matches between the two clubs have been drawn.

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    Full History of Tottenham Hotspur v Southampton Matches 1893-2015

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    They Played for Spurs & Saints....

    Paul Allen
    Gareth Bale
    Lee Barnard
    Dave Beasant

    Joe Blake
    Kevin Bond (Saints player, Spurs asst manager)
    Tommy Cable
    Martin Chivers
    George Clawley
    Peter Crouch
    Ian Culverhouse
    Calum Davenport

    Alf Day
    Ally Dick
    Kerry Dixon

    Dickie Dowsett
    Jack Elkes
    Harry Evans (Saints player, Spurs asst manager)
    Iago Falque
    Tommy Forecast

    Alex Glen
    John Gorman (Spurs player, asst manager at both clubs)
    Alf Hawley
    Glenn Hoddle (Spurs player, manager at both clubs)
    John Hollowbread
    David Howells
    Doug Hunt
    Philip Ifil
    Ernie Jones
    Joe Jordan (Saints player, Spurs coach)
    John Joyce
    Kasey Keller
    John McConnachie
    Frank Osborne
    Tomáš Pekhart

    Mauricio Pochettino (manager with both clubs)
    Alf Ramsey
    Grzegorz Rasiak
    Harry Redknapp (manager with both clubs)
    Jamie Redknapp
    Matt Reilly
    Ron Reynolds (also Saints scout)
    Dean Richards
    Graham Roberts

    Dick Rowley
    Neil Ruddock
    John Sainty (Spurs player, Saints coach)
    Frank Saul
    Graeme Souness
    (Spurs player, Saints manager)
    Archie Turner
    Wilf Waller

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    Tottenham Hotspur Premier League Player's Squad Numbers 1993-94 to 2014-15

    Southampton Premier League Player's Squad Numbers 1993-94 to 2014-15

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  2. Bloodandskin

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    So good to keep this long running opposition going, about time Saints started to win a few?
     
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  3. The Mighty Thor

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    Purple patch, that's all.
     
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  4. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Soton are having a honeymoon period with Koeman, hopefully we can break that but it'll be difficult, I think I'd settle for a draw, even though realistically 3 points is a must.

    Team I'd play:

    Lloris,
    Naughton, Kaboul, Vertonghen, Rose
    Capoue, Dembele or Mason
    Lamela, Eriksen, Chadli
    Soldado

    The defence deserve to keep their places after the Arsenal game. Ade should be dropped though, he's not done much in his last few appearances and Soldado deserves another shot to prove his worth.
     
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    I think I'd keep the same team that played at the library, though Dembele or Bentaleb instead of Mason might be a good call. I would give Ade another game or three. I'm not convinced, yet, that he's too blame for looking off the pace the last few games, though I'm getting there.
     
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  6. I have a Saints FC football signed by all the squad from a few years back, including James Beattie, and with a special signature from Matt Le Tiss (who had retired to lower league football the season previous). I wonder if it's worth anything?

    I also have another Saints football signed by Matt Le Tiss. Is that worth anything?

    What I don't have is a football signed by any Spurs squad. Is that worth anything?
     
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  7. remembercolinlee

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    I aways had a soft spot for soton after listen to our promotion match v them on the radio as a 10 yr old...but I will be pleased when this match is over....so these sad south coast wums will finally go away.
    Liverpool buy half there team yet they hate us cos a manager they don't rate left them for us...they keep telling us how their new manager is better...yet are so bitter about poch being our manager.
     
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  8. Sidney Fiddler

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    I remember that radio match, listening in trepidation with my wonderful late father .
    Both us running down stairs to see the celebrations on the Grandstand match report . Then a few months
    later the unbelievable signings of the 2 Argie Matadors . An age of excitement and innocence .
     
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  9. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    I've always admired Soton too, though the sudden hate from a few of their lads has made me really want to win this match. I am quite surprised at the ****e wummery we've received from some, as has been mentioned, we took their manager and so granted it's a kick in the teeth but Liverpool took their best trio, I'd be seething at that. To lose one key player to a Prem rival is bad enough, two is terrible and three is a ****ing joke.
     
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  10. Bloodandskin

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    i have to say on the dislike front, Spurs are less dislikable than the other main two London clubs. probably due to having more real supporters and less plastics walking around.
     
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  11. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    I prefer being disliked by opposition if I'm honest. I have soft spots for a few sides don't get me wrong but ultimately I actually dislike every team bar Spurs and I like the idea of other fans not liking us, that way if we beat them, the victory feels sweeter, if we lose, I just down more pints at the pub after the match. Football is about passion and I personally find that if there's a mutual dislike between two sides, it brings out a better atmosphere.
     
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  12. Bloodandskin

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    +1. I fooking hate Spurs!
     
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  13. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    I'll look forward to our 3 points on the weekend even more now :)
     
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  14. Do you really think anyone is going to support Spurs for the glory?
    <doh>

    I can assure you that there are no plastics among the ranks of us Spurs fans, BloodyForeSkin!
     
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  15. Spurm

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    He's right, we all support Spurs because we are in to S&M, just ask HIAG about what he did this weekend....
     
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  16. PleaseNotPoll

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    Please don't.
     
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  17. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    <laugh>!!!
     
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  18. Where's the harm in midget transvestite nuns?
     
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  19. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    <laugh><laugh><laugh>,
     
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  20. remembercolinlee

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    none...it's the chilli powder and the sink plunger that scare me !
     
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