1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

o/t - Castle Street bridge as designed by a lurcal

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by bum_chinned_crab, Sep 30, 2014.

  1. bum_chinned_crab

    bum_chinned_crab Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2011
    Messages:
    21,807
    Likes Received:
    6,317
    I know OLM normally posts this kind of thing but he might be busy....

    http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/New-...inspired-New/story-23018680-detail/story.html

    Have to say this concept is ****loads better than the turgid offerings produced by the Highway Agency. Of course we havent got an insight into respective associated costs here but it just shows the benefit of doing it 'right' rather than cheaply. Of course they won't use this design but the best we can hope for is that this design makes the council planning authority grow some balls and demand betetr from the HA.
     
    #1
  2. DMD

    DMD Eh?
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    68,647
    Likes Received:
    60,513
    That does look good. I wonder what the cost of maintaining the suspended element back to Princes Quay would be.
     
    #2
  3. DMD

    DMD Eh?
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    68,647
    Likes Received:
    60,513
    That does look good. I wonder what the cost of maintaining the suspended element back to Princes Quay would be.
     
    #3
  4. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    111,663
    Likes Received:
    75,996
    It looks great, but they're never going to fund a bridge that goes all the way from the city centre straight to the Marina, it bypasses Prinny Quay and everything alongside the Quay...

    please log in to view this image


    please log in to view this image


    Their original design is **** though...

    please log in to view this image


    I still think the land bridge is the best option...

    please log in to view this image
     
    #4
  5. bum_chinned_crab

    bum_chinned_crab Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2011
    Messages:
    21,807
    Likes Received:
    6,317
    It doesnt does it? Looks to me like it links perfectly with the side entrance to Princes Quay, opposite the Quayside. If that's the case it would link perfectly with the main area half way along Princes Dock Street.
     
    #5
  6. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    111,663
    Likes Received:
    75,996
    Actually, you're right, I thought it was the end, but it actually meets the bridge half way down.

    I still think the land bridge is a more practical proposition though.
     
    #6
  7. onlyme

    onlyme Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2012
    Messages:
    992
    Likes Received:
    179
    i think princes quay should be scrapped.
     
    #7
  8. HHH

    HHH Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    6,925
    Likes Received:
    5,166
    I'm a total pleb in these matters, but isn't the problem here that this is a highways agency scheme.

    My point being, all they are concerned about is managing and improving the road network. So getting rid of the pedestrian crossing, that disrupts the flow of traffic, is job done for them. They don't worry about the wider issues here.

    What the city actually needed was a much wider scheme, with a key focus of linking the marina area back into the city centre.

    Can't help but feel we'll end up with a ****ty bridge and an opportunity missed.
     
    #8
  9. renegadetiger

    renegadetiger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2011
    Messages:
    2,040
    Likes Received:
    884
    It's probably not feasible to scrap it, but something needs to be done with it because it's dying on its arse at the moment.
     
    #9
  10. DMD

    DMD Eh?
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    68,647
    Likes Received:
    60,513
    The A63 is a Trunk Road designed for long distance travel, but a lot of the traffic is local traffic from the villages coming into Hull.

    The Highways Agency can show this, which could be used to suggest the Local Authority improve their arterial roads to accomodate local traffic. I'm sure ERYC would chip in to this too. <cool>
     
    #10

  11. HHH

    HHH Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    6,925
    Likes Received:
    5,166
    If only there was such a thing as combined authorities working together in such matters...
     
    #11
  12. stevielidds1

    stevielidds1 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2014
    Messages:
    46
    Likes Received:
    0
    6963135-large.jpg

    These bridges annoy me! 'well people need to go across that road which is about 25 foot across but I know we will make it so that everybody has to walk 50 foot by going round in bloody circles' Just stupid
     
    #12
  13. WhittlingStick

    WhittlingStick Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    4,781
    Likes Received:
    502
    blame the need for disabled access , blame the fact that toerags would vandalise any elevator and also that there isnt much room for maneuver
     
    #13
  14. BrAdY

    BrAdY Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2011
    Messages:
    18,956
    Likes Received:
    2,582
    i thought it was supposed to be lowering the road and all of that area being a land bridge, really connecting the marina to the centre

    a bridge seems a bit futile
     
    #14
  15. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    111,663
    Likes Received:
    75,996
    The A63 only backs up at the Smith & Nephew flyover, anyone from the villages with half a brain has already turned off by then.
     
    #15
  16. WhittlingStick

    WhittlingStick Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    4,781
    Likes Received:
    502
    i still think part of the way to solve the up n down-ness of the bridge AND solve some security/safety issues - which i see as only ever being a concern to many when crossing such a long bridge, would be to start it somehow at Prinny Quay (theres no real reason PQ can't be treated as a high street to allow pedestrians access through it - i know when the store is closed there is an issue , but it could be resolved.

    from the back of the PQ facing Castle Street the elevation is already there
     
    #16
  17. Davies Headband

    Davies Headband Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    2,474
    Likes Received:
    161
    There's everyone that uses it coming from Hedon Road as well remember!
     
    #17
  18. DMD

    DMD Eh?
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    68,647
    Likes Received:
    60,513

    If that's true, the traffic surveys carried out suggest there's only a handful of village people with half a brain then.

    That actually fits with a lot of anecdotal evidence too. <laugh>
     
    #18
    DarbyDays likes this.
  19. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    111,663
    Likes Received:
    75,996
    Indeed, but they're not people coming into Hull, from the villages, on the A63.
     
    #19
  20. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    111,663
    Likes Received:
    75,996
    I've no idea who surveyed the traffic, but perhaps they asked the vehicles the wrong questions?
     
    #20

Share This Page