MAFIA 3... SIGN UP. (For upcoming International Break) - To Start Oct 6th.

Not EVERYONE forgot! I brought it back up several times but dismissed it as "Astro is crazy!"

 

I mentioned it too. I guess the mafia team did a good job steering us clear. I'm sure it was Biscan that defended him too

 

Yeah, I think different forums have different slightly different tweaks of the rules and how they play. I've played the "silent vote" rule where Mayor (or similar role) gets an extra vote that is secret. Not played the "voting for mayor" variant before- it does seems interesting. I'd be curious how it turns out.

 

No IBWT was the only person who voted for me

 

#perfectdisguise

 

I guess its a way of giving someone a more important role. Of course this could include a member of the mafia team such as the goon too meaning all four mafia members have a important role to play.

 

End vote yes, but I'm talking about the comments. Biscan voted for you but then argued your case afterwards after appearing to change his mind about you.

 

Yup

I'm
In btw. At least if we kill the board that week then it won't matter too much

No preference on game type. I do think giving people roles helps keep things more interesting so don't know if any way you can give more roles out but with limited power etc.

Just think it's more interesting if you have a purpose in the game compared to just being a regular townie.

 

The "Unknown Evil" game I hosted on another forum everyone had a role! (but no one knew everyone did- and the first person that openly suspected it got lynched immediately).


Of the regular formats multi-team mafia would probably give the most people the most roles. Another idea for getting more people roles is to give objectives. For example, two people may both be "town" but will secretly be given the objective to try and eliminate the other (through lynching) before the game is over.

 

put it this way.... milk said if he didn't dismiss it as newb error he'd have been on you totally but IMO if I'd been playing I'd have brought your action up. the votes for magic were simply ridiculous..

the real fact is you didn't even need to argue very hard.... or at all... and luccass who was mafia voted magic and the rest just jumped on it.

Still dunno why they didn't have you and/or bod and magic up as joint leaders

 

I like this.

I also think having "regular" town is important. you know nothing. you are innocent, you shouldn't let them away with it...

and also this next game i feel both last games were ended early by people shouting their roles. I do feel eventually someone will get ther comeuppance doing that and people will learn.

Danilo saying nothing at all until a 1/2 hour before the end of day 3 was risky but it worked and he ended up converted. If magic had lived day 2... as in if astro or bodanki got theirs Magic would have killed sky and therefore sky shouting i'm important look at me look at me oh but by the by i know nothing would have royally backfired.

 

I got worried towards the end when Magic ran away with the vote... began to think we were barking up the wrong tree but didn't want to change last minute without a good alternate.

 

Two ways to force people to be more careful about announcing themselves:
1) Remove the doctor /Protector role.

In Mafia 2 this would have prevented people coming out so early.

2) Divest power amongst the Mafia.

In Mafia 1 (and 2) only the Don could kill convert. Take him out and it's game over. If there were a separate Mafia Don (for converting) and Assassin (for killing) - then Cops would be more hesitant to out themselves.

Or- if Don is killed a second Mafia member is designated to take over.


3) Make cops only see "Mafia or Town" - not specific roles.

Thinking back to Mafia 1- Lucaaas was able to out himself after finding the Mafia Don (because he was safe once Don was killed). If specific role was not given they couldn't do this.

One common variant of the game makes the Don (or Godfather) immune from investigation. So the Don shows up as innocent if investigated. This means you can only find the "helpers" through investigation.

 

well i hope next time people look at the whole table not just the people with votes. I would almost have changed to a all 14 people table with zeros but felt it was wrong mid game.

 

1.Yes the dr role was inserted but i actually held back to only one investigator right up to the day before. perhaps with one it would have been to easy.

I felt the Dr was useful to make the mafia think twice but i think people shouted it out too easy and gave the game away. gerrez told me it was the worst role in the game early but then found it was pivotal by the end.

2. I also agree and did think about a god father rather than don and allow the mafia vote and submit all actions jointly. you could equally split the convert and assasinate out. i just left it as was as i wasn't sure i wasn't getting to complicated for a second game. It is all about the don so having maybe the same role but having someone promoted to it form ranks could work but equally i did not that some mafia were just along for the i vote this way ride at times so having a power each would be interesting i think.

3. Yes figuring out some means to just day mafia, or say vigilante. or vampire etc would be good. knowing just that is enough.


all in all i felt that each role can prove pivotal based on event and what people do or do not do based on decisions. If for example magic had been on at all day one he would easily have tipped the game any way just by killing. he mafia then used this to their advantage. The same is true of the dr as people would have found if magic did hit sky that gerrez was protecting him... but yes the don is crucial and must say out of the action to get his two or three actions done and it does become an issue. with two investigators thats 2/15 night one to avoid, 2/14 night 2 and 2/13 potentially night 3....

If the mafia knew their actions were safe no matter what that might be an issue so splitting them up might work too. it is only game mechanics if the mafia are working together, if you all agree an action as mafia then you execute. if you play i'll decide and tell you then the mafia might not work very well as a unit.

 

The doctor outed himself first

 

Yes, but Mafia couldn't be sure at any point who you would be protecting.

 

Of course we could
#allaboutgreez
#selfishbatard

 

I'm in. I'll show you all how it's done <cool >

 

Correct, although I did tell them