MAFIA 3... SIGN UP. (For upcoming International Break) - To Start Oct 6th.

An International break starts in 1 Week so time for round 3 of Mafia. If you'd like to join in- please sign up below! We had 10 for Mafia 1 and it was good- Mafia 2 we had 15 people sign up and that was even better! I think 15/16 is a perfect number... won't hurt to go above though.

Also- if anyone would like to run Mafia 3 - please let us know (you must feel confident in the rules to do this obviously- and there can be a fair bit of work involved keeping up with the vote count for everyone)! I will run it if there are no volunteers.


Explanation for Newcomers:
For those that didn't play in Mafia 1 or 2 but are interested (and don't know the rules). The easiest way to learn is to play. I think everyone else that played can help fill in rules and help you along. Basically though it is a game of an "informed" minority (the mafia) against the "uninformed" majority - the town. Each day everyone votes who they want to eliminate. (town will try and guess who is Mafia based on their comments/voting habits). Mafia are allowed to talk to each other and coordinate via PM- town are not allowed to discuss strategy off the Mafia thread.

At Night- the Mafia perform actions to try and weaken the town (such as kill them or convert them). They do this by sending the host a PM telling them their plans. Sounds complicated but it's actually pretty simple.

Town wins when all Mafia are eliminated (or they capitulate). Mafia wins when they are in the majority or town down to one person (Mafia 2 was set up when they have equal numbers).

Here are the previous games if you want an example.
http://www.not606.com/showthread.php/276225-OT-Mafia
http://www.not606.com/showthread.php/277366-OT-Mafia-game-thread-starts-Sunday-8pm-14-9-14





Suggestions on Format
Obviously, I think whoever is hosting/running the game should get final say- but so that we have a pulse on general opinion- which format would you prefer:

Single Team Mafia:
This is what we did in Mafia 1 and 2. This keeps things simple- it's easy to balance town vs Mafia to make things "fair".
If we get 15 people sign up- this would allow probably approx. 4 people to have Mafia roles- and about 4 to have Special Town Roles. This is one of the quicker format to complete.

Multi Team Mafia:
A little more interesting. More people get to be in Mafia roles. In a multi team Mafia game- the rules are similar. The two Mafia team have to eliminate each other though.

Obviously with 3 teams (2 Mafia, 1 Town) there will be fewer "winners". In a 15 person set up- I'd suggest two teams of 3 Mafia. Allow town 4 special roles. This gives 10 out of 15 people with either Mafia or Town roles.

Vampire Variant:
Some people didn't like the name "Vampire" - doesn't matter what it's called though. The Vampire variant of the game works a little different- it starts out with a smaller "mafia" team.

Usually there is one Vampire Count (or Lord)- who has the power to create his own team. With 15 people- I'd suggest starting out with 1 lesser vampire on his team. In Vampire, the "Count" gets to pick one person each night to kill/convert. The host flips a coin. Heads, the picked person gets killed. Tails, the picked person gets converted to a vampire.

An alternate variation that removes "random chance" is that on odd number nights the person is killed. On even number nights the person is converted. Unlike in Mafia variants where the Mafia Don gets a limited number of converts/kills... in Vampire they have unlimited. (to increase tension as game goes on until the Vampire Count is killed).

If Vampire Count is killed on day/night 1 - the Lesser Vampire (or underling) would take over as Vampire Count to prevent game being over in 1 day.


Mafia Vs Vampire

I've never actually witnessed a game set up like this- but it would be an interesting variant. Not sure what would be best balance for this game but I would suggest in a 15 person game- perhaps set it up as Vampire Count starts with no underlings and Mafia starts with 3 people. Vampire attacking Mafia would result in kill not convert though- and Vampire would need a guaranteed convert on first townie attacked (to have a team).

Unknown Evil

In an unknown evil variant of the game- town does not start off knowing who the bad teams are. (and "mafia" teams if more than one don't know what format the other "mafia" teams are: mafia, vampire, etc.)

Usually in Unknown Evil the mod/host throws in at least one unexpected role/evil team to give it a special twist.

What makes Unknown Evil great is that because no one knows which roles are which- it makes it much easier for people to bluff and "invent" what roles they have. Because of this, town will be slightly stronger than normal in roles usually.





Anyhow- let us know if you're in- and which format you would prefer. If you're comfortable with hosting the game that would be great. MITO and myself have both hosted a game... I don't mind rehosting #3 if no one else wants to host.

If you host, you get to pick format and when nightfall happens (to fit your schedule).





Signed Up (so far...) 15
Milk (potential host unless someone else wants it)

RHC
MITO
Gerrez
Astro
IBWT
Magic
Hash
Swarbs
AFCFTW
Bodanki
BRB
Sky
Lucaaas
Billy
Danilo.


¿Zingy? #15 - uncommitted response in PM so far.

 

I have said previously that I'd happily host a game but I can't commit to the set times after this month due to the mrs (nm) going back to work, means I'll have the three lads to look after. Happy to take part in the game but probably won't be anywhere near as active, I'll probably be voted off in round one as a result too #inactive #mustbeguilty

 

Thought this was the big announcement on the console game.

Disappointed.

 

I am in.

thanks to milk for giving the sign up thread.

I am thinking we are inexperienced and there's scope to keep it simple and interesting this time before amping it up.

Last time I ran it we were prob one decision away from easy mafia win then it all flipped.

I think depending on numbers (15 would be fantastic again i dunno if any of our guests last time have some guys they think might come on) having two mafia teams might work but i see balancing it important.

I kind of like the addition of the "vampire" or growing menace thing the more i think about it but I do think we haven't explored the full richness of the vigilante either.

anyway if anyone seriously wants to talk san marino this week fair enough.... but.... san marino!!!

 

I think you'd do well in this game and nobody would be out to get you.

 

I'm in, under the proviso that my visits will be limited now I'm virtually sitting on the bosses ****ing knee

 

I think a lot of people who were skeptical at first ended up liking the last two games.
Regarding people being out to get him. 1/4 of the people in Mafia 2 were non Liverpool players. Yet the people killed:

RHC, Magic, Hash, Lucaaas, Danilo.

every single one was a Liverpool supporter. No rivals were killed (before game over).

 

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What about the Neutral Variant where someone doesn't support any team but just disagrees with whatever LFC supporters say?

 

Need to get Sky to sign up again... the only person to have been alive at games end and on the winning team every game so far.

If only to lynch him first night so he doesn't have that record anymore!

 

Oh and suggestion for role:


What do people think of a "Mayor" Role? I saw this googling around and thought it looked interesting variantion.

On day one the people vote, not just to lynch someone, but for someone to be Mayor. The Mayor will be granted 1½ votes... basically being the tie-breaker on subsequent days.

Mayor can be Town or Mafia- whoever is elected. Obviously- Mafia will try to get one of their own elected and town will be clueless... but the votes for Mayor on day 1 could work to give town some extra information to go on- based on who ends up in the running.

 

I don't think the tie-breaker would be a huge incentive for the mafia when it's easy to influence the vote anyway at the start (unless people do 1 vote per person )

 

I do think some people might have eliminated a couple no lfc fans on partisan gorunds if they'd gotten their way but once nobody supported it there honeslty was almost a I can't vote for the non red or i'll get called attitude. bodnaki could easily have been gone day 2 or astro for that matter.

In short.... even tobes would do well if he'd only admit the endless arguing would suit him perfectly.

 

I was never at risk. Only a single vote against me and it was from the don.

 

I toyed with it.

there were a couple of variants.

the my vote counts double (but hidden) part or this tiebreaker... or the ability to grant a pardon from execution. Whoever is host can certainly decide depending on thier point of view.

I think electing a mayor is one way to go it'd be interesting.... as you say if its desirable for the mafia they could go for it OR they could pin it on someone who's likely to dive in with their suggestions rather than look back at patterns. certainly i can see looking at who voted day one could be interesting.

one other thing on day one is requiring say 33% of vote or 50% of vote to trigger a death.... depends on the numbers playing. Some games work that way it seems.

 

you WERE!

but only that night. you had a clear 4 votes but then everyone drifted away from you and forgot what you did. if folk had have remembed and refocused the day 2 death could well have been you... or in a tie.

 

I think Bod and AFC were definitely targeted in the last game and is perhaps the reason they stuck together (translation; AFC stalked the **** out of Bod).

I think it can work differently though. Yes they are a outsider so to speak but they then avoid the 'clique' **** that people such as myself or RHC get, we both got targeted early on (me in the first game too). Hell, three or four had decided to vote for me four days before the game started

 

yes but i did get the impression equally there was a bit of hands off as well.... I think next time they won't be viewed with any suspicion at all.. hardly... so everyone will be equal.... its the f'n quiet and confused lads... the mafia or vampire or whatever need to drop the i'm confused ****.

 

Nope. All the votes came within 30 minutes of the new day. Just an emotional reaction. I even PM'd the don saying teammates shouldn't risk supoprting me too much because I had ages to argue people away from me.

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I'll get voted off immediately as I'll be quieter by then. Lets just hope I'm not finally given the don role