Off Topic Ranieri, Taylor, Drogs, Spy: KGB vs BI Game

So what are you suggesting we do? I'm confused again.

 

But if that happens we'd just vote Philby off the following night.

 

but also have wasted a kill.

I'd prefer to have the kills left for a time when it isn't 50/50. It is going well and DT coming forward as MI6 rather than a different position is a massive bonus for us but there could well be bumps along the way. This isn't over yet (tho I think they have started to expose themselves more).

 

straight vote

Obi v DT (both unprotected to avoid confusion)

one of them is definitely KGB if they both claim to be MI6. If we are wrong first time we vote off the other the second time. We all agree to vote for one or the other in an open vote. If we're wrong then we all agree to vote off the KGB imposter

 

Ok this makes sense to me now. I vote DT. Kills retained.

 

Its possible Obi wont be on to defend himself but we shouldn't read anything into that if his father in law is ill.

Still voting for him tho!

 

Woooooah! loads to look at. sorry folks, I genuinely can't be on much at the mo and i do appreciate that one way or the other this affects things at what looks like a crucial point. I truly hope it's not impacting things, as like many I was loving this! But EQUALLY i'm am genuinely NOT trying to sway any votes on a 'sympathy' basis. Real life is real life and this is indeed a GAME. Whatever you know/think of me, that is one card i would NEVER play. There have been genuine reasons why I've not been on!

I have not been able to go through the numerous pages of posts, but from looking backwards first (best way to read a book), I agree with the take down BOTH me and DT theory. It feels right in light of most recent events. ONE of us has to be wrong! I'll say no more, as whatever I do (given my absence) could influence outcomes for others.

We can't BOTH be BI spies but then the results of these BI searches could have been manipulated either way - so what use is the BI spy role anyway. So whatever you think, take us BOTH down and avoid doubt! And leave me to get on with other things in life!

Either way, the outcome must be one BI #special' and one KGB. so fairly even. Genuine!

Sorry DT - just realised this ends your game too if everyone goes for this. And I was trying to NOT be selfish! Can't win! <obi ALWAYS ends with a laugh regardless - you know this>

 

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[td]Nominated Player[/td]
[td]Nominated By[/td]
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[td]DT[/td]
[td](5) Jimiley, Trev, DMW, Obi, Rolando[/td]
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[td]DMW[/td]
[td](1) DT[/td]
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[td]Obi[/td]
[td](3) Less Hope, GCB, Tasty[/td]
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POSSIBLY MY LAST INPUT:

Jeez, i can't sleep!!

I vote DT. I'm a martyr not a suicidal maniac!

If i'm going out via a full force mob attack then i'd like to think of it like James Caan in The Godfather! Riddled with bullets beyond all possible doubt.

BUT others really can go for me with my blessing, so long as the end result is BOTH go! It's the only fair way?

DT is either: a MI6 'spy' suddenly exposing himself - yet knowing I had already been 'outed' as the only remaining MI6 'spy'? - immediately after he was nominated (by all 5 who took out PULP - see posts 1198, 1199, 1200, 1202 & 1204), and convincing you all that he therefore MUST be right (?) - when I wasn't there to argue/reason.

It's either a cleverly played 'outing' of a KGB (who openly stated trust in Less Than Trev, DMW & Roland) by a 'silent' MI6 - OR it was a completely ridiculous, desperate (yet apparently convincing) attempt at self preservation by a KGB following:
> a number of you piling votes on him (as in ALL 5 of you who took PULP down, instantly voted DT - until his "No I'm Spartacus!" revelation and you jumped ship)
> his 'suspicious' voting behaviour to move the kill away from (the now known KGB 'maclean') PULP
> in 3 rounds of voting managed to help kill Tash (the since proven MI6 agent), (the since reinstated) MI5 agent GCB and attempt to deflect attention from KGB PULP
> then jumped on Tash's 'declaration' that I was MI5 - not MI6 - and used this as THE credible reason why he is MI6 and I can't possibly be (never in the history of the world has a 5 been transposed for a 6 accidentally when sent from one person to another then from that person on to many others)

ALL this having only just just joined in the game!

Either way, I'm virtually out of play now (regardless of voting / executions etc. )
I suggest you find a way to even it up by eliminating a 3rd KGB + final MI6 'spy' both going down at once.

The key question is who to 'vote' off and who to 'assassinate'. And why! There is logic here. The assassinate 'could' be blocked depending on who the KGB character is, so choose wisely!! As one might still be in play the next day. OR go for a 50:50 vote and take both that way - BUT beware of any last second vote switches taking out one not the other! You decide!

I will say no more for now and this is probably goodbye from the game for me!

It's been a blast gents! Whichever side you were/are on!

JPF

Now i just need to get some bloody sleep!

 

i know I can't get to sleep - but 2 members and 4 'guests' viewing at 3:30am! JPF you have seriously ****ed up our lives man! I HATE YOU!

 

Right lads, I'm at work all day until 7ish. Might get on today, probably won't. I have voted DT and told JPF my save. If the chance arises later I'll look in but work and family first!

 

DMW, Obi and even Jim are rather active. Wonder why....

You boys really need to smell the coffee.

This will be my last post till after I'm killed so will pop on probably tomorrow to gloat like a Mr T on speed- cos I will have told you so.

Fair play to The KGB though. They really have played a blinder with mixture of quiet ones and loud ones.

JPF. You're a legend.

I'll take the next one more seriously I promise.

 

Just got up - and read through all this and for now am removing my vote until later when more info might come out!

 

I vote DT.

 

The vote should be for DT.

JPF didn't fail to answer an investigation of DT. He hasn't specifically answered that question from DT. DT talks about investigation two nights ago and JPF talks about last night.

Also why mention an investigation so everyone can see and not PM unless he hasn't done it before?

As mentioned by someone else why didn't DT reveal his MI6 status when someone else was claiming to be the last MI6 agent?

Further DMW and Obi have been fairly active throughout in contrast to DT himself.

Above convinces me to vote DT.

Do agree with the Obi or Dt split for tonight which then makes me look at those who are not with suspicion.

 

I'm on an all day drinking session today so this will be my last post today and then tomorrow I'll have to put in some ground work with this missus so won't get on tomorrow much either.

For what it's worth I believe DT (mainly because it backs up my obsessive theory regarding DMW ) so my vote is for Obi

 

Most sure of GCB and Neville, so I'll back their votes. Obi it is.

 

I am currently voting for Obi - tho that doesn't necessarily show the way I intend to vote. I just wanted to get Obi's name onto the board so that we had the right 50/50 on the go rather than DT v DMW.

I have some suspicions about Obi, but I think if someone never did enough on here to arouse suspicion then that is in itself suspicious (looking at you Jimmy, DPP & cbrad).

The way Obi has played the game compared to DT would lead me to suspect DT. The MI5 thing does make me wonder whether DT is telling the truth. That could be an opportunistic chance to pick up on a typo by Tash tho, and if it is then well played KGB/DT. Then there is the question of why Obi has stopped passing on info in public (for the last 2 nights - and before that he only passed on info in PM). Did he drop his guard once we believed him, or is it just that he forgot to mention it because he was caught up with dealing with possibly being voted off? Either is possible and plausible.

Obi's last post confuses me. It is more than a post. It's a message, but I can't work out who it is a message to. If he is KGB then he can PM the message (f** he can PM if he's BI - this is Obi!!!), so why post a cryptic message on the thread? We need to look at the bits in bold, at the assassination message (and who to aim for), and at the way it is worded. That message is not a goodbye - its a plea for the right person to save him. That would mean that Obi is either MI6 and asking Lyalin to save him, or he is Philby and asking us to assassinate so that Burgess saves him. I have no idea which.

I read back over the start of the thread yesterday and I am now 99% convinced that DMW is BI. On the first night Pulp voted for DMW and nobody came forward trying to save him. If I hadn't intervened he'd have been gone. If he was KGB then wouldn't they have saved him - they could so so without suspicion on the first night, especially by voting for 'mackem' Indy.

I am now leaning towards voting for DT, but I am waiting to try and understand that message of Obi's better.

 

don't spend too much time on it mate (I know you want to because your are obsessed with this game) it was late and I think I confused myself as much as anyone.

I can get on here for a few minutes at a time today, but limited.

I'm all up for the me vs. DT as I think it will reveal a lot. I just thought there might be ways it could go wrong. I don't think it is major though.


One theory was that if you go for a 50:50 vote to take down both, then it leaves the possibility that somebody might sneakily switch votes at the last second, to save one and kill the other. BUT on reflection, it would be suicidal for KGB to effectively 'out' themselves so obviously. So I'm not sure that scenario is a concern? I might be wrong?

My other theory was that IF you pile the votes on one and shoot the other, there is a chance you shoot the KGB (and vote off BI). IF do there is a chance KGB survives. But that would only happen if the KBG in question is Philby send the shot is blocked by Burgess(?). In this situation, Philby gets one more night. If it's any other KGB, they die.

So at worst, KGB get one more night but it's obvious who they are. I don't know which is best approach just pointing out the scenarios.

It seems best when everyone agrees on one approach, so do you either:

1. All clearly vote for one of us and then Gordievski orders a secret kill on the other
2. Put both up for equal vote to save the kill for another time
3. Let GCB distract you from this obvious match up due to his obsession with DMW ***

Whatever you do stick to a bloody plan and know why you're doing it!



**** My theory here is that DMW cheated on GCB in real life and GCB's retribution is to live out killing him - via the medium of online gaming!

 

Ok....I think we're getting somewhere.

What you're saying is that DMW cheated on GBC and now GBC is intent on living out his murderous and revengeful fantasies on DMW?

So, if DMW is David Moyes Wife, then this would mean that David Moyes is Graham Carr's Binoculars, and would mean that if Davis Moyes is Influencing Graham Carr then, indirectly, David Moyes is influencing Alan Pardew. If we look back earlier in the thread of football life we can see that Alan Pardew's teams never seemed to do well at Everton when Moyes was there, even losing there on the last day when we had a chance of Champion's League football. This would support the theory that Moyes was secretly controlling Pardew and working against us. The only fly in the ointment that I can see for this theory is that Pardew's team managed to beat manure in manureville for the first time in a hundred zillion years after Moyes had voted out Wainwright and switched his allegiances to manure. I think this was just a devious case of David Moyes hiding his tracks though, and that he was still evil (no wonder his wife cheated on him with Kevin Keegan). To see the way ahead we need to look at David Moyes character. We know that despite his deep cover, manure suspected him of being evil and broke off their allegiance. This weakened David Moyes power base and allowed Alan Pardew to momentarily escape from Moyes' evil influence and start signing players for the first time since Moyes had possessed Graham Carr's binoculars. For me though, the key to this game hasn't just been on what the evil people have been doing, but it is focusing on what the good people have done once they escaped the shackles of evil. Because of this we need to look at the first thing that Pardew did after escaping from Moyes influebce. He sold Debuchy. He knew that Debuchy was a good solid player, but he also knew that there was something evil about him. On Debuchy's part, he was keen to get away from Newcastle as he also knew that something was working against him. I believe that it was an honest mistake of Debuchy to suspect that the evil influence was the football strip he was wearing. However, in the last couple of weeks new information has come to light. Despite swapping the football strip he was wearing, Debuchy's bad luck has continued and now he has been gunned down by the serious injury gun. We now know that it wasn't Debuchy's strip. This only leaves his tattoos as the evil influence. The decision is obvious...

I vote Debuchy's Tattooist

Obi - you're a genius!!