Off Topic Ranieri, Taylor, Drogs, Spy: KGB vs BI Game

But Philby will remain, not only will he remain he''ll also be running BI.

I'm running a solo campaign against someone claiming to be Lyalin.. of course I'm at risk.

 

And that is exactly why we should have agreed a compromise. When there was too much doubt about one person we should have been able to agree to watch that person and try elsewhere logically. I don't understand why we couldn't do that if we are all BI.

 

As we pass the 1000 post mark, I am still at a loss as to how or why Tash, who was BI, would peg you as KGB. Once you're done, then it's DMW. If you're BI then I may just shoot myself. I would also like to point out, for any theorists, that I made a statement pre-Tash being voted off saying we should vote for Less first, then if he was innocent we'd know Tash was KGB. We did it the wrong way around, but I'm going by the reverse logic here and so Less remains my vote. Sorry, old chap. Stiff upper lip.

Off topic, if there's a bunch of people not-voting who actually have active roles, it makes the whole thing a bit of a damp squib.

 

Spot on with your second paragraph.

 

I agree with that last point, and for me that was where the compromise lay.

GBC could have kept his suspicions about Obi and DMW while we waited for the real MI6 to show themself and expose Obi. (why wouldn't they do that - its the only option that would make sense and is a strong reason why I believe Obi).

We wouldn't have risked taking out a potential Lyalin or MI6.

For example, take cbrad. He's been online. he's been posting on other threads. He hasn't voted once on here. To me that is suspicious. However, if he is merely an inactive BI who doesn't vote then we are risking nothing by voting him off. We don't lose any voting power if he never votes, even if we lose another player. There are more like him. Then we start on the rarely posting/voting ones. The risks of that are minimal compared to guessing which of the active posters to take out. Eventually Obi would get an investigation that confirmed KGB. We could then test it by voting for that person. We learn about Obi in a safer way than GCB's plan.

That's what I would have done but its too late to organise now.

I don't believe JPF would put GCB back as MI5 if he knew we had inactive MI6 etc as he would know this would ruin the game. All the key players must be active and no MI6 is coming forward to dispute Obi because he is genuine. Also, if DMW is not Lyalin and the real Lyalin is jst keeping a low profile, then why didn't they save Tash?

 

Good points. I suppose the only reasons would be if they are roles that are inhabited by inactive players. Or if either has already been turned by Philby.

 

That's a good point - but Philby can only turn one of them. If it was the MI6 officer then Lyalin should have saved Tash. If It was Lyalin then the other MI6 should expose Obi.

As for them being inactive - if they were inactive then surely JPF wouldn't have sent GBC back as MI5? It ruins the game.

I really think the way ahead from now on is to target the quiet ones. Apart from having no risk of hurting your voting power it will also be revealing if anyone was reluctant to vote for someone who didn't vote. In such a no-risk strategy there would only be one reason to argue against voting for a non voter. Your voting power will be so weak after tonight that you can't afford to lose more BI voters.

 

Targeting the quiet ones is pointless because it's back to just guessing. Numbers are more important than being active or inactive. KGB only need to pick off 5 more BI for us to lose.

I find it weird that you're happy to vote for someone without any evidence.

 

That's exactly what I was saying in above quotes.

My suggestion to BI would be to unite and vote for a quiet or apparently inactive person.

For that reason I would be suggesting Jim. Can we, BI, agree that action.

If we do this and suddenly someone else comes to the fore then those suggesting (collectively) someone else would be under suspicion.

Also there are at least 4 KGB. We keep mentioning only 1 or 2 possibilities for KGB which means 2 or 3 not being mentioned.

 

That is what you are doing, and at the same time risking losing active BI which is worse IMO.

Time will tell. Not my fight after tonight. I will be camping in Sunderland (I'm sure that's what they said in the threat - "Sleeping with the feces")

 

Had a bad headache today and this game isn't helping!

Can't be reading through the reams of posts on this thread today. I'll vote Less Hope to help prove Obi & DMW are who they say - your logic on this seemed sound Less Hope. Sorry. Perhaps JPF can resurrect you once it's been confirmed you were BI.

 

I would go with it - but only if the rest of the BI didn't feel it would be more helpful to prove I am MI5. Even if you start tomorrow though, I believe this is the way to go.

I'd start with the completely silent ones, but also agree with Pulp and Jim.

 

A question for JPF, if Less Than is Maclean and uses it on himself tonight will his true identity be revealed or cover identity?

With you encouraging everyone to vote for you what's to say you or the KGB don't use Maclean on yourself?

 

I would stay dead. This game is exhausting enough without having to create whole new persona

 

I accept this is far fetched but just want to see if Maclean can be used that way.

 

I am fairly sure that the Maclean only works when MI6 enquire about someone - otherwise we wouldn't know if the people killed so far really were who we thought.

 

At least there is logic behind your decision! (and to think I voted to save you last minute too )

 

If we going for a quiet one I want to vote pulp because he views a lot but doesn't contribute.

I'm not convinced this is a sound strategy though.

 

THIS IS NOT OFFICIAL: JUST FOR INFO IN JPF's ABSENCE

I think this is where we are at:

[table="width: 500, class: grid, align: center"]
[tr]
[td]Nominated Player[/td]
[td]Nominated By[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Less Hope Than Neville[/td]
[td](4) Tasty, DMW, Roland, Less Hope[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Pulp[/td]
[td](1) GCB[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]DPP[/td]
[td](1) DT[/td]
[/tr]

[/table]

(I think)

 

Changing to Pulp but not convinced by this strategy and want it noted that I still have huge concerns over DMW and think Obi could be KGB too.