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OT: Do you think Scotland Independence is good for United kingdom?.

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Good for Scottland to leave the Union?

Poll closed Sep 29, 2014.
  1. Yes

    10 vote(s)
    21.3%
  2. No

    37 vote(s)
    78.7%
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  1. DerekTheMole

    DerekTheMole Well-Known Member

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    Yes
     
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  2. Jeremy Hillary Boob

    Jeremy Hillary Boob GC Thread Terminator

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    Jeremy Vine reckons it'd be Salford... because that's were the BBC are based. Circular logic, round like their flat-caps.

    #ratherberuledbysharialawdirectfronkabulthanthemfuckingclogsparkers
     
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  3. Milk not bear jizz

    Milk not bear jizz Grasser-In-Chief

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    It doesn't matter if they have different sizes. England should have two parliaments... 3 at a stretch... breaking it down smaller than that is going to be counter productive.

    Greater London & South East would be one government. Rest of England another (break into North and South if you must). Fragmenting the country more than that would be pointless.


    Brum would be the obvious choice for the English Parliament (separate from the London Parilament). If breaking into North England and South England- Sheffield would be ideally located as the geographic/demographic middle of the region. I don't see why it would necessarily have to be headquartered in one of biggest cities. For obvious reasons wouldn't make sense to be located in a small town though.
     
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  4. BBFs Unpopular View

    BBFs Unpopular View Well-Known Member

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    But increases representation, in theory anyway. That is the current problem, you have a government no one voted for becaues of centralised democracy. No one voted for Libdem Tory government.

    Lib dems are just Tory lackeys, because of this system Lib dems got sold down the river by their party. It's really a tory government with some tea boys attached

    The federal system the US is meant to be but is not any more, that was a good system
     
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  5. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    very true sisu, but i would be very surprised if they still have or will ever get back the support they did have before they sold their soul to the devil and let the **** torries into power.
     
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  6. BBFs Unpopular View

    BBFs Unpopular View Well-Known Member

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    I mentioned postal votes a while back, these were sent to England scanned and counted but not in the normal fashion, thre were over 600,000 postal votes<whistle>

    Now more rucus over postal votes
    http://www.heraldscotland.com/mobil...lice-over-no-camp-postal-vote-claims.25423662

    Also, there is a big shout for a recount and a lot of talk of ballots with no barcodes on the back ect.

    90,000 have already singed a petition for a recount and verification of ballot papers, and a lot of other claims of skullduggery. <laugh>



    Granted some may be just nonsense but there is a s**t load of dirt being draggd up over the referendum.

    The Scots can have another, this may not be "decided for a generation" as wrongly put, they just need to pass a bill and they can have one anytime.


    And Yes Lizard people did it :D
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    A Labour MP has been given a police caution following an allegation of electoral fraud.

    Bristol East MP Kerry McCarthy revealed the results of a sample of postal votes on the social networking site Twitter days before the general election.

    It is illegal to reveal the votes cast before the end of polling day as it may influence the outcome of the election.

    Ms McCarthy, shadow Treasury minister and her party's "Twitter tsar", apologised after the gaffe.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-11621053
     
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  7. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    I see we're going to be bombing the **** out of Iraq and probably Syria.

    #sickofscotland
     
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  8. Jeremy Hillary Boob

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    10% Sis, 10%. It wasn't even close in the end, and even the biggest SNP zealots know that. Even the lizards can't swing ten f**ing percent of the vote by jiggling the boxes around. So what now? Declare UDI because you didn't get the vote that you wanted? Then follows a pariah state who couldn't raise a penny on the worldwide market to support its social spending.

    But you would be right in saying that the major parties should be held to account over the last-minute promises made to the Scots, and no they shouldn't be linked to a timetable for any vacuous English parliaments. If they're not delivered on time I think THEN the Scottish parliament has every right to call another referendum. But your continuing lizard theories apart, don't forget that, as it stands, and even with the overt intimidation of the Fenian offspring of Scotland's central belt, eleven out of twenty Scots just couldn't vote against being British when push came to shove. Now that's 15% less then the polls showed a year ago, and if the Westminster powers renege on those promises (as the right-wing media want them to) then who knows? But, as it stands Sis, the majority of Scots want to stay British and to fight for a better Scotland within the Union.

    Deal with it.
     
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  9. Jeremy Hillary Boob

    Jeremy Hillary Boob GC Thread Terminator

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    But what you haven't mentioned is that the (alleged) irregularities do not concern any 'fiddling' of the votes, but rather the lack of secrecy regarding the (usual) sampling of the postal vote that is done during every election. Note that even then the Nats are not suggesting that the Scottish Tories leaked this information until after the pools had closed. Bad, but not the f**ing Zimbabwean vote-rigging that you're trying to imply, and judging by the gob on Salmond in the last few days before the vote, I'll wager the Nats were in on this 'secret' too.
     
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  10. Garlic Klopp

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    Apparently in order to vote in the referendum you had to register on the electoral role. This is now being used to track down all those Scots who owe Council Tax, Fines, etc.

    Nationalism comes at a price I am afraid.
     
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