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Official Match Thread: COC: Liverpool v Middlesborough

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by Flappy Flanagan (JK), Sep 20, 2014.

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What will the result be in this game?

Poll closed Sep 23, 2014.
  1. Liverpool Win

    9 vote(s)
    50.0%
  2. Draw - Liverpool win after extra time

    3 vote(s)
    16.7%
  3. Draw - Middlesborough win after extra time

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Middlesborough Win

    6 vote(s)
    33.3%
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  1. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    yeah but.... is there any picutres of actual pens getting awarded and was the blood involved.
     
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  2. johnsonsbaby

    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

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    From IFAB: Law 14 - Penalty-kick

    A PK shall be taken from the penalty-mark and, when it is being taken, all players with the exception of the player taking the kick, properly identified, and the opposing goalkeeper, shall be within the field of play but outside the penalty-area, and at least 10 yards from the penalty-mark. The opposing goal-keeper must stand (without moving his feet) on his own goal-line, between the goal-posts, until the ball is kicked. The player taking the kick must kick the ball forward; he shall not play the ball a second time until it has been touched or played by another player. The ball shall be deemed in play directly it is kicked, i.e. when it has travelled the distance of its circumference. A goal may be scored directly from a PK. When a PK is being taken during the normal course of play, or when time has been extended at half-time or full-time to allow a PK to be taken or retaken, a goal shall not be nullified if, before passing between the posts and under the cross-bar, the ball touches either or both of the goal-posts, or the cross-bar, or the goal-keeper, or any combination of these agencies, providing that no other infringement has occurred.



    But ... as we all know it's a lot different in practise. Just for fun this was allowed to stand:

    [video=youtube;m8TeCUcMiSE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8TeCUcMiSE&feature=player_embedded[/video]
     
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  3. Don't know where you got that from but its wrong <ok>


    The penalty in the video shouldn't be allowed to stand either but depends how long ago it was. The ruling for the attacker was changed a few years ago meaning they were not allowed to stop during their run up. they can stutter it but not actually stop.
     
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  4. Lucas Talking

    Lucas Talking Well-Known Member

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    Yep.
    This penalty from last season was ruled against and Messi actually got carded.

    [video=youtube;FWE17d2-LCA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWE17d2-LCA&feature=player_embedded[/video]
     
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  5. johnsonsbaby

    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

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    IFAB website.

    The video was this years World Cup!
     
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  6. Tobes

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    Rule 14 no longer stipulates that the keeper can't move his feet. He just has to have some part of his foot touching some part of the goal line when the kick is taken, it can be a toenail or a sliver of heel btw. So he can move along the line without infringing the rules.
     
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  7. Afghanistan vs Maldives...?
     
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  8. johnsonsbaby

    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

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    That was 3 years ago - it does break the rule of 'feinting' after the run up, usually it's a re-take but refs decision on whether it was unsporting can result in card.
     
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  9. Tobes

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    The defending goalkeeper:
    &#8226; must remain on his goal line, facing the kicker, between the goalposts until
    the ball has been kicked

    http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/footballdevelopment/refereeing/81/42/36/log2013en_neutral.pdf

    It doesn't say he can't move. He can therefore move along the line and as long as at the point the kick is taken some part of his foot is in contact with some part of the line, he's not infringing the laws, so that can be a toenail if he stands behind the line or a sliver of heel if he stands ahead of it. He can move around to his hearts content i.e. JB is wrong.
     
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  10. johnsonsbaby

    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

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    Sorry wasn't WC it was AFC Challenge Cup May 2014.
     
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  11. Same place as I went <laugh>

    Position of the ball and the players

    The ball:
    &#8226; must be placed on the penalty mark

    The player taking the penalty kick:
    &#8226; must be properly identified

    The defending goalkeeper:
    &#8226; must remain on his goal line, facing the kicker, between the goalposts until the ball has been kicked

    The players other than the kicker must be located:
    &#8226; inside the fi eld of play
    &#8226; outside the penalty area
    &#8226; behind the penalty mark
    &#8226; at least 9.15 m (10 yds) from the penalty mark
     
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  12. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    what's the purpose of specifying these 2?
    aren't they the same as the one above them, sees unnecessary to me.
     
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  13. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid
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    There was a good pen I saw where a guy went to take it and actually hot the ball with his standing foot as he planted it. Looked impressive. Think it was some under 21 or under 19 Spain international game.
     
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  14. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid
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    1st means you can't stand to the side of the area infront of the pen spot (like on the byline)
    2nd in guessing refers to the D
     
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  15. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    now you have said that, makes sense, cheers lol.

    never thought about it that way, as never seen anyone do it.
     
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  16. johnsonsbaby

    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

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    I think if you read back I already posted that :biggrin:

    It's interesting that because it doesn't specifically say he can't move, you interpret that as he can - similarly in the same Laws, there's nothing about the penalty taker stopping/feinting but we interpret that how we want as well.
     
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  17. DirtyFrank

    DirtyFrank Well-Known Member

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    Stops another player standing at the side of the box or behind the by line with a penalty in game? But I would have assumed the offside rule would take care of that if they somehow got to the ball first because of standing there....but then I suppose you could have a defender standing beside the goal but off the pitch (Still outside the box) who could help clear a rebound faster if the rule wasn't there.
     
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  18. johnsonsbaby

    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

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    I think Neymar's done one of those too.
     
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  19. "outside the penalty area" and "behind the penalty mark" could be seen as different since someone could stand to the side of the area I suppose :huh:
     
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  20. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    It stops the taker standing in front of the ball <whistle>
     
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