Off Topic Ranieri, Taylor, Drogs, Spy: KGB vs BI Game

Voting Tash at the moment. Only because why would Neville vote off ACS if he know he was a comrade? Unless Rolando is also a comrade... But that would make Rolando 'Philby' as he was saved, so the KGB would have known to save ACS by voting for Rolando in the knowledge that 'Burgess' would save him...

As those convoluted shenanigans did not occur I'm currently of the belief that Rolando is BI and was saved by 'Lyalin' and therefore the voters who nominated ACS are straight BI... Unless Neville is playing a deep level of subterfuge (which would have been costly with losing one of their limited number), then he is BI and Tash is lying.

If Tash goes and it is announced he was MI6 then we have the silver lining that we know he was telling the truth about Neville... Unless his info was flipped to a lie by 'Maclean'... Urgh - this game is so straightforward.

 

I will die for the greater good, and Maclean will (should) be dead by 9pm tomorrow. Assuming there are an abundance of MI5 agents still active to vote him off.

 

[table="width: 500, class: grid, align: center"]
[tr]
[td]Nominated Player[/td]
[td]Nominated By[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Rolando[/td]
[td](1) Magic MS[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Magic MS[/td]
[td](1) Rolando[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Tash[/td]
[td](6) BTK, DT, Jimiley, DPP, Trev, Tasty[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Pulp[/td]
[td](1) Less Hope Than Neville[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Less Hope Than Neville[/td]
[td](2) Tash, GCB[/td]
[/tr]
[/table]

 

Personally think Tash should have revealed that he's MI6 earlier but his story seems a good one. I'm now changing my vote to Less Hope based on this new information as if it's true we need Maclean dead asap. If Tash is flogging me a dead horse and is KGB then he'll be gone by 9pm tomorrow anyway.

Another reason for my change in vote is that Less Hope as unoffically become leader of BI's voting strategy, if he's KGB he's played it well and has become even more dangerours than he should be.

 

Interesting developments.

I am not Maclean, I am MI5, I have no info on Tash though. We can't assume he is not MI6 just because he has named me as Maclean, because it is possible that I was named as Maclean when Tash enqired - because somebody else played the Maclean (if you check the rules on page one then it says he may give actual names rather than just BI/KGB if the Maclean is in effect).

Right now I need a coffee to wake up - I was working late - and then down to some serious business of outing the KGB!

 

I've always thought Less Hope was BI and still could be. I also think people have been railroaded in to voting for Tash (although Less Hope has voted for Pulp in order to stay under the radar).

I'm sticking with Less Hope for now.

 

Am voting for less hope

 

I have a moral dilemma that I would like some advice about - a dilemma that may also explain BRS' bizarre demise.

At some point since the last vote I have received a PM from an agent claiming to be an MI6 officer. Now we all know that nobody on the side of BI is allowed to PM, therefore I have not replied (IS THIS WHAT HAPPENED TO BRS????). The dilemme I face about this is twofold.

Firstly, there is the risk that this person is MI6 and is just bending the rules. To expose him would be to severely reduce our chances of success by losing another MI6 agent, albeit one acting like a cheating Russki. However, from all I have seen of this person on the board, they seem like a good person and not the type to bend the rules in this way. That leaves the alternative that this person is a KGB agent trying to spread confusion. I may be wrong, but this is the way I am leaning at the moment.

Secondly, as it looks like Tash has been successful in turning people against me (despite the fact that it was my intervention that killed off ACS and if Roland was also KGB then I would have known he was protected if I was also KGB) I have no desire of taking information which may help my team to the grave. The second dilemma is that it is against site rules to post PM's on the main threads. Pedrhaps a mod could advise me on the best thing to do in this situation - with some input from JPF

 

You pm'd means one of 2 things. You're KGB, or the pm'er is suicidal. Your vote hasn't changed so I have to assume you're a Russian. Unless you can offer some argument against my logic, I will have to vote for you.

 

Interesting to see who quickly appeared as viewing the board after that post (including 2 mods) but nobody wanted to answer my enquiry.

Perhaps they are off to discuss KGB tactics?

 

To add confusion, I am not convinced this level of info would be available. I think that an investigation would be at best saying who is Russian and who is British. For this reason I change my vote to Tash.

 

My vote hasn't changed - yet. I need/want to see how people respond to my first reply to this PM - which is in public.

I have every intention of publishing the PM once I am given permission by a mod. The person who sent the PM is not the type who comes across as being thick enough to be that suicidal, and therefore I think they are KGB. I believe we have them rattled and now they are playing hardball. One thing is certain. If I am voted off then you will see that I am MI5 (no special powers) but also not KGB. At that point everyone should take a long hard look at my suspect list. There is a reason they want me gone.

 

To be fair to Tash, it does say in the rules that when the Maclean is played it may give a name rather than just saying BI/KGB.

I am not convinced this is what happened - but it could be.

 

I assume you're referring to myself as one of the mods. I personally don't mind you sharing the pm with the board on this occasion as someone is either cheating or they're KGB and have made a clanger.

I'm happy for JPF to have final say on this provided the others mods have no issue with this approach.

 

I was - but another viewer appeared (who is still online) and disappeared again quickly. This person may be more relavent.

 

I have also been contacted by someone posing as MI6. I also know of one other who has had similar contact. My initial reaction is that I suspect both of them, and Less Than of being KGB. My problem is all other posts suggest otherwise about all three. Less Than helped to off ACS (or at least appeared to). I am also of the opinion that this person is simply bending the rules.

Tash - What intel were you given regarding Less Than that made you so sure of who he was? Why did you not wish to reveal yourself until now?

I am not willing at this stage to reveal who the other two are as I could simply be offing our own. My leaning at present has to be towards the one who sent me the PM being KGB. However Tash's revelations, if true, are the first cast iron intel evidence we have. There are two ways of looking at the Tash scenario. One its the selfless act of a condemned BI, or its a final act of confusion among the ranks by a KGB officer. At the moment I'm leaning towards the latter because if Less Than was KGB, he would not have helped to see off ACS, the vote was tight! Actions speak louder than words.

I'm pretty confused now. I am not voting until Tash answers my queries.

 

I too have no issue.
There are a lot of forum 'rules' which often are interpreted differently by some boards.
Personally in the cicrumstances of a game I see no issue at all as it will help things along.
It would be different if JPF was PMing you to tell you he'd fallen out of the closet with a cucumber up his backside.... then you 'outed him'.

 

This fits with the PM I received,as you and one other were mentioned in the PM.

However, the problem I have is this: The other is on my suspect list and I don't believe the person who PM'd me is daft enough to bend the rules like that. i think they must be KGB. If not, then their decision to PM could prove suicidal to all of us as they must have known that rule breaking would be interpreted as a KGB action.

 

I wasn't referring to you. You didn't even cross my mind. You are dead to me you red-loving bastard.

 

I think the person who has PM'd needs to be revealed now even if the content isn't given out just yet.

Mainly because they're cheating and if they're not then they're the weak link in KGB and deserve to go anyway.

Less Hope and Tash remain high up on my list because they're currently playing BI off against each other, Pulp is also another as he's just letting things quietly unfold in front of him and if he was BI and was happy with how things are progressing he'd have more of an input. If he's happy with how things are progressing and he's KGB he'll leave well alone (as he currently is) to avoid arousing suspicion and so that when the next vote comes along he can plead his innocence (claiming he didn't vote because he didn't know who to vote for) just like Tash did this time around.

Tash's decision to claim Less Hope is Maclean could easily be a last desperate act to save himself from being voted off and to stir up these very conversations.