How man of blackpool's team last season had this experience then? Really its over rated this experience in the premier league, I fail to see what an over the hill premier league player will bring to us, well except over inflated wages! our current players will soon be premier league players, we have played in the last few years Newcastle Wigan Stoke Sunderland WBA Norwich QPR Wolves Can't see anything there that should frighten us, and the rest of the mid table sides are beatable IMO, top 6 are going to be hard to beat, but not impossible as blackpool on their limited team and resources gave a run for their money
your being far to confidant where im on the edge of caution. qpr and norwich finished above us an the rest survived the drop. blackpool shows that without experience you will fail. we may go through a honeymoon period like Blackpool did but we may not and blackpool fell like a stone in the second half of the season. they also lost against lower league clubs in the cup and why......no experience thats why. now we have to learn from their mistakes and sign a few experience players....you are talking daft if you think the prem is overrated because there is a definite step up in standard....
Only a step up in the higher end of the table Dai, I don't feel blackpool's failure to stay up as a disaster to be honest, they showed that it took until the very last day of the league, and to be honest we have a better team than them, we will stay up
how can you say we are better, we dont know that nobody does. they were unlucky but its their fault and we all saw that, we must not make the same mistake as we cant afford to wait until the final games with Liverpool and man utd the last two games. we need to start out as we mean to go on and recruit 3 or 4 experienced players now while we have the money so we at least be on the same level. out of the three of us that went up i believe that with some good recruits we will be better than them but if we end up needing points to stay up then i cant see it as we have the hardest last 5 games than them to do it.
the simple fact is for us to stay up, we got to be better than those clubs, and with the exception of Newcastle I think we will be above them all come next year, if we are not quite simple we are relegated! We can do better than them as their players whilst got premier league experience now for the most part, are still the players they went up with! And teams with years of alleged experience came down recently, notably Newcastle!
Dia if we bring in say 5 experienced Prem players at £30,000 a week, that would push our wage bill up by over £8 Million a year, on top of the wages of the rest of the squad, in fact we could well be looking at £15+ Million in wages, which quite frankly for a club of our size, and the fact that this is our first adventure back in top flight, is just crazy, and what will you get for £30,000 a week, remember Bellamy is on £95,000 a week, what did he do for Cardiff? Sorry Dai but I don't want our club, to wast any money on this crazy option of yours, I think what we need to do, is to keep doing what we have been doing, and that is finding the up and coming talent in the likes Bodde, Rangel, Taylor, Dyer, Sinclair, Williams, Allen, etc, etc. These players are good enough for the Prem, I would concede maybe an experienced CB, or front man but that is it, we need to develop the club Dai, not some over rated players back pocket!.................. please log in to view this image
classic example of cheap players worth millions would be Charlie Adam - cost 500,00 i think and now worth 8 mill to the big clubs
I very much doubt we'll pay money for anyone in January, everyone is always overpriced then and it's a panic buyers market.
Ah no doubt, but our financial policy is normally a LOT more stringent than most clubs we'll be playing/bidding against, and history leads us to think that January prices will be inflated so I can't see Huw doing too much buying. A couple of loans and a freebie, maybe...
I think one big difference between us and Blackpool is that we have a manager that has some Premier League experience. I think he understands what needs to be done. We're not Blackpool.
I just hope injuries dont dictate our season iff the strength in depth isnt there. By xmas we will have a good idea whether we go for it or are more conservative with our funds, prem survival is top priority but long term sustainability and an academy are equally important imo. If we sort our back line out i really think we can shock a lot of teams . The trouble with just starting out in the prem is £40 mill doesnt go very far these days, so staying up a few seasons with full support WILL be a massive result for us so beg borrow and buy anyone within reason that can keep us up there and explore every money raising avenue available as long as it doesnt have a negative impact on the fans or club.
The only Derby record I'm worried about us breaking is when Derby spent a bunch of money in the January window to try to stay up & never won single game after . A good eye is worth a lot more than money will ever be in football .
we could be down by xmas and the January window wont be any good if we dont find a balance and then the same fans will be on here saying "why did we not recruit experienced players. you cant win..... dammed if you do and dammed if you dont, I know what i would rather... now we are in the big time and that is pay a couple of players £25k-£30/week (low wage in this league) to give us a fighting chance, it will be to late when the transfer window closes and we find ourselves wanting......what players have we got at the moment that you can say with hand on heart are premiership quality, there is not many thats for sure.....so my point is we should recruite 3 or 4 premiership players as a balance. we need a couple of backs, a goalkeeper x2, we need another forward and that should do it, the midfield is not bad with bodde coming back, also buck can only choose i think 26 players and who they will be i dont know.
i'd say the player's we've got who could do a job in the prem(prem quality) are- rangel,williams,taylor,sinclair,allen,bodde(if fit),dyer,dobbie and graham, player's who could fill in quite often-monk,tate(centre half only),britton and jaz richards(underated) so going by that we need 2 keeper's(loach+other), a centrehalf and left back(caulker and betrand),2 midfielder's(a biggish lad and a creative player), a back up winger(emnes), and a striker(lita), for the creative midfield slot i'd like us to go for gomez, we know he has quality, but things have'nt really happened for him at wigan.
Hull did that, and look at them now. Recruiting experienced players will help, but paying them huge salaries (relative to us, anyway) is a terrifying prospect. Bullard is a good example, although his wages were reportedly higher than those of which you speak, but still... we really shouldn't be looking to pay anymore more than 20kpw, and that should be absolutely maximum. Unless the player is a genuine class act, but realistically we're going to be doing bargain shopping!
doctor love how can you say those players are premiership class ???? how do you know, they may do a Scotland,Chopra,boothroyd and many others, a few might hold their own but in reality nobody knows if one or all of them will be flops, as for £20k/week your having a laugh, you do realise that this is premiership football we are talking about and not lower leagues, no decent goalkeeper will take that, a lower league with no experience would jump at the chance or a former premiership goalkeeper who has been deemed past it and no longer quick enough would take the easy money, for a quality goalkeeper you have got to start at £35k/week at this level, its small change to employ 3 or 4 players that we need on that wage if we are serious about staying more than one season in the premiership, there is more than enough in the pot for that with out breaking into a sweat. forget the championship thats in the past and we are with the big boys now, its going to be hard enough with experience players but to have none and go cheap when we have the money will be impossible
