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Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by Flappy Flanagan (JK), Sep 20, 2014.

  1. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    I'd not go 352

    I would take a cb and play him like a donkey at dm however.... Think any are half capable of that???

    It's safe to say the only ares we've enough players is there so put one in as a dm to kick and harass high up. Drop Gerrard for that player and all! Make it 451 with markovic and sterling wide in the next game and pack in the other two slots with Lucas and Henderson

    Simple as that

    The idea is body on cm line not defence line
     
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  2. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Nah..... 4-5-1 all the way 1-0 sturridge score lines. Play sterling wide right and markovic wide left

    And frankly if he can't cut it push Moreno to lw and bring in Enrique at lb we need to pack it out and get possession of the ball and midfield area
     
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  3. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Right I think this is it

    Mingolet
    Manquillo Skertl sahko Enrique
    Sterling lucas(Allen) lovern Henderson Moreno
    Badontelly(sturridge)​

    Bring in those in brackets when they are fit

    Gerrard can come in when available/ cup games but use sparingly
     
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  4. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Then FFs buy a cm in January and hope 4th isn't a pipe dream by then
     
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  5. Flappy Flanagan (JK)

    Flappy Flanagan (JK) Well-Known Member

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    I like Enrique on LW. He done it a few times early in Rodgers reign.

    Lovren at DM? Interesting idea.
     
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  6. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    i thin ksahko played there for psg MAYBE... but i felt if someone like lovern who likes to attack stuff and run about the place could try it it might be interesting.


    i thought that with einrique being only back he could be protected lsighty and moreno's pace and willingness to run and shoot being exploited on the left.

    we coudl bring in markovic for enrique or moreno or lallana for that matter.

    my sole theory is win the midfield area with busy players but this won't fix sloppy sloppy silly **** goals like v west ham.
     
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  7. Flappy Flanagan (JK)

    Flappy Flanagan (JK) Well-Known Member

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    Alternative idea! Gerrard in CB.

    Hear me through here.

    Our defense has been poor, unbalanced, poor playing the ball and seriously lacks leadership and organisation.

    Enter our captain, Steven Gerrard.

    Rodgers once mention the idea of playing Gerrard as a 'number 2 centre back' against teams that park the bus. A ball playing CB who can build from the back when you dont need to man marking CB's.

    But I'm talking about Gerrard partnering Lovren or Skrtel at the back.

    First I will list the obvious benefits:

    He will be vocal
    He will lead
    He will organize
    He is strong in a tackle
    He is good in the air
    His passing will be neat
    His passing range varied
    He will play the ball with his head up

    When we are in possession I see little fault in this, and I think it can work defensively to.

    Sure Gerrard is not the quickest or most mobile any more. But neither was Carragher and he did just fine. I really feel we need that leader at the back.

    Also, with Lucas or Can in front of him the defense will have much better cover. A midfield of Lucas, Henderson and Allen was awesome v Spurs last season.

    Mignolet
    Manquillo Skrtel Gerrard Moreno
    Lucas
    Henderson Allen
    Sterling
    Balotelli Sturridge​

    Could this give us the leadership at the back that we need?
     
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  8. What we need to do and quickly is simple...GET FLANNO FIT!!!
     
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  9. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid
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    Where to start...
    He's never played there before. Carragher wasn't quick but he'd played 15 years in the top flight in defence, but different! I think we're watching a different Gerrard if you think he possesses the qualities you've listed.

    Gerrard isn't vocal, one of his problems, Carragher was always the vocal one out of the 2.
    He leads by example, but the example he's set recently had been poor so don't even really think he does that anymore.
    He doesn't organise. Again, Carragher was the organiser of the team. I've never seen Gerrard move people around at set pieces making sure everyone has their man etc.
    He used to be strong in the tackle 5 years ago. Playing at DM he is a weak tackler and it's exposed there, just as much as it will be at CB.

    He's good in the air, but not dominating enough to be a CB.

    Can you imagine Gerrard defending at CB against a Costa or Aguero?! <yikes>

    Apart from all that....

    it's still no <whistle>
     
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  10. Gerrard's never been vocal. The arguments over the captains armband when it came to Gerrard vs Carragher was always a case of 'lead by example' vs 'vocal organiser'
     
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  11. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid
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    <whistle>.
     
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  12. Couldn't be arsed reading what you put, far too long :)
     
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  13. Flappy Flanagan (JK)

    Flappy Flanagan (JK) Well-Known Member

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    Gerrard will tell a player what they'v done wrong, advice them or encourage them though. Even if he's not a screamer like Carragher.
     
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  14. That's not going to organise a defence!
     
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  15. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid
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    I'd rather he tell them to get into the right position to now make the error in the first place <ok>

    No good telling someone they should have been marking that person that scored.... after they've scored! Tell them before and stop them scoring.
     
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  16. <whistle>.
     
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  17. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid
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    Couldn't be arsed reading what you put, far too long :bandit:
     
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  18. Apology accepted :)
     
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  19. Flappy Flanagan (JK)

    Flappy Flanagan (JK) Well-Known Member

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    Neither is what the hell is going on with Lovren and Skrtel. Its better than nothing.
     
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  20. So despite having four international centre backs at the club, putting a 34 year in a position he's never played before is the best option we have? Never mind who is going to play in the holding role instead! Sorry Flappy, but I'm not with you on this one <ok>

    A consistent backline is what we need. It was the same last season but for some reason Brod likes to tinker about in that area. Also need to stop switching the system about and give players time to settle in too. Brod shouldn't try changing everything in one go!
     
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