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Match thread - Swansea v Southampton

Discussion in 'Swansea City' started by Terror ball, Sep 16, 2014.

  1. neveroffsidereff

    neveroffsidereff Well-Known Member

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    I don't think it's anything to do with fitness. His mind is elsewhere and pissed off he didn't get the big move he was after. He needs to knuckle down and get on with it now, only way to get the move he craves is to find the onion bag week in week out.
     
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  2. Bob the slob

    Bob the slob Well-Known Member

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    He gets paid a lot of money to have plan B & C.

    That said his timing of subs and not using the full quota was criminal.

    Siggy was struggling from 50 minutes, Taylor was all over the place and Jonjo couldn't step up to the extra expected with Gyli pushing forward and Bony not being there to mop up his 'hit and hope' passes.

    On 50 - 55 minutes Monk should have been making his replacements. Emnes for Siggy, Jazz/Tiendalli for Taylor & Bartley for Routledge. At that point all Soton were doing was lumping balls into the box; to and extra defender and three players with more physically presence would have done a job.

    (Emnes was a correct choice as he is good defensively and can get forward - Gomis lives off-side)
     
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  3. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    like i said bob the fans don't know anything and only complain after the event as if they know better..<laugh>
     
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  4. Yankee_Jack

    Yankee_Jack Well-Known Member

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    But some "fans" have played and coached the game .... and are not opining out of pure ignorance. Football isn't rocket science - if it was there wouldn't be so many people making a living at it.
     
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  5. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    But some "fans" have played and coached the game .

    <laugh> brilliant <ok> Quote of the week candidate...<ok>
     
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  6. St. Luigi Scrosoppi

    St. Luigi Scrosoppi Well-Known Member

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    Nothing beats a view of a game through bigoted and biased eyes. You were a dirty load of blighters and whinged like made when you had the same dished out to you. The comparison with the old Stoke I am afraid was more appropriate to your bunch of cloggers.
     
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  7. roofjack_22

    roofjack_22 Well-Known Member

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    Bony is up front on his own and gets the wrath of opposing CB 's on his own , a lot of times falling back to find something to do when we cant pass it out . It 's part of the reason I would like to see a pair of strikers for certain games . Opposing teams that press us back will struggle with lofted balls out of our end with 2 up front . When we were down a goal and a man with little time left , our chances of getting anything out of the game were slight . Monk put Emnes in to give him some minutes and saved Gomis from the "Wrath " of the saints CB 's imo ... sound thinking if thats what he was thinking
     
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  8. LIBERTARIAN

    LIBERTARIAN Well-Known Member

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    "Nothing beats a view of a game through bigoted and biased eyes".

    That comment encapsulates the vast majority of football fans' of ALL Clubs',unless,of course,you are inferring that Saints' fans' are somehow differently behaved.
     
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  9. Yankee_Jack

    Yankee_Jack Well-Known Member

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    Being a "fan" and a professional in the trade is not mutually exclusive, nor is being a "fan" mutually exclusive of knowledge, understanding and above all else common sense. Some of the best footballers ever are "fans" of the sport, a club, a coach or individual players.

    Someone doesn't need to be a certified car mechanic to know when or even how to change a tire ...... having 10 knackered players facing a team that has just made two subs might indicate that perhaps it is time to freshen things up - it's not rocket science, it is in large part common sense.

    When you delay making your subs and concede a goal to a team with fresh players on the field ... it begs the question - why the delay. When you have one opportunity left to put fresh legs on the field, a multi-million pound forward on the bench, a goal down, and you intend to use most of the knackered players in the game on Tuesday (if only to be competitive) .... it begs the question why was the sub not used. Was it oversight or some hyper-deep strategic thinking that Soton were going to take pity on us and let us stroll one into the net.
     
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  10. DragonPhilljack

    DragonPhilljack Well-Known Member

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    I've been thinking on this one, and he needs to refocus his attention on the job at hand, he'll go nowhere until he starts banging them in again!.........<ok>
     
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  11. sa1nts

    sa1nts Active Member

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    Well everyone views games from their own teams perspective. I saw Williams constantly tug shirts, body check, belatedly run into our goalkeeper etc etc a very dirty player in fact, I saw Fernandez as a sly off the ball fouler and I saw Moreno blatantly dive to get Morgan booked.

    But you won't have seen any of that would you?
     
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  12. DragonPhilljack

    DragonPhilljack Well-Known Member

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    Fair point Yankee, most on here know what they are talking about footy wise, except Dai of course!..................<laugh>
     
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  13. DragonPhilljack

    DragonPhilljack Well-Known Member

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    Listen now, we are known for being a very clean playing side, our stats prove that over many seasons, and it's not as if our players don't know the physical sides and what they have to counter with, and it's clear to me your team came to ruffle a few feathers, that was clearly a tactic from what I saw of the game, we simply gave as good as we got, that said I wouldn't say it was a dirty game, just a tad on the physical side from both teams, shame really as both teams play the game the right way!.............<ok>




    All the best for the rest of the season except when we play you at your place.
     
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  14. aswan_dam

    aswan_dam Well-Known Member

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    Unfortunately, Monk won't be coming on here to explain his decisions to you Yankee. He's a Premier league manager for Christ's sake, not some 10 year old kid who's never kicked a ball. If he'd pulled off a 0-0 draw, which almost happened, you'd be well pleased. The margins are fine and there's a multitude of options to play out going down to 10 men. He presumably felt he'd made the best call. We'll never know if a different approach would have produced a different result.
     
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  15. Bob the slob

    Bob the slob Well-Known Member

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    <ok> .

    Fans have every right to question the manager on yesterday's decisions or lack of.
    I seems what was blatantly obvious was over looked.
     
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  16. DragonPhilljack

    DragonPhilljack Well-Known Member

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    Agreed, I have no axe to grind with Monk at all, though he has a seeming weakness with subs, but overall I'm very pleased with the way our season has gone so far, we can't have it all our own way every week!..............<ok>
     
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  17. roofjack_22

    roofjack_22 Well-Known Member

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    Thought Monk did a terrific job trying to steal a point , once they scored he brought on his 3rd striker and left his 2nd striker fresh , away from battle . The ease at which some people thought we would score if we brought Gomis on , down to ten men , speaks volumes at what many dont know about managing imo . My confidence in Monk's ability grows by the game and I thought I would never say such a thing . 7 points from our next 4 games should quieten the whispers .
     
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  18. aswan_dam

    aswan_dam Well-Known Member

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    If We'd lost 0-5 using Monk's approach I would be the first to agree he was wrong. If he'd brought Gomis on at half-time (or at All) maybe things would have turned out differently, maybe not. He could have brought on Bartley and played 5 at the back...
     
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  19. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    exactly <ok> Monk calls the shots and you have to accept that he knows the reasons why. fans point of views are just that points of views and irrelevant...monk will know his team better than any fan and that's a fact. you don't have to agree with him but again that's irrelevant too as he wont care.. As things turned out other results went our way yesterday and today..<ok>
     
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  20. aswan_dam

    aswan_dam Well-Known Member

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    That's right Dai. Everyone has the right to disagree with the manager's decisions, but not to the extent that they are so arrogant to think that they know better and that a particular substitution is 'obvious' or that the manager can't count how many subs he's made. And for the record, I would accept the decisions made whether it were Monk, Laudrup, Rodgers, Martineau or whoever, just so you don't think I'm defending Monk to the hilt.
     
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