I agree that Salmond has achieved one thing. He has opened up the debate about increased revolutionary powers. Not just for Scotland, but England, Wales & N.I. The handbags have already started swinging over the England question. Cameron, of course, would love to be able to discount all Labour's Scottish M.P, s from any vote on English affairs. Milliband, equally unsurprisingly, doesn't seem quite so keen on the idea. As to Scotland, whilst I wouldn't discount another vote on independence sometime in the future, it certainly won't be anytime in the near future.
I'm not so sure. Whilst he is now a grown man, with responsibilities to his wife and children, the thought of handing a vote to my eldest son when he was 16, is truly frightening!!....
That wasn't a NO table, it was a future NO table. The table was being used temporarily to store the ballot papers before the initial count had taken place, so before they had even been sorted into YESes and NOs.
But can't drive, smoke, drink and various other things. There needs to be an age when you're an adult. It's a mess right now.
That's what I heard or read too, what about the woman shuffling the papers around? Moving them from Yes to No and back again? Not that i'm bothered, just wondering.
"There needs to be an age when you're an adult." Indeed. Whether voting, drinking alcohol, fighting in the armed forces, driving, sex. Make a decision on what the age is (17, 18 etc) , but make it consistent.
There's got to be something wrong when joining the army, getting married or having children are options before having a pint or driving a car are. Not simultaneously, obviously!
THis is not a game of football PNP, you do not give up on strongly held opinions because you lose a vote. WE have accepted the decision of this vote we do not however accept that we lost the argument and will continue to work for our views.
You don't selectively choose facts to suit your argument and ignore a democratic process that you called for, though. You wanted a referendum, you got one, you lost badly and now you immediately want another one, because you didn't like the result. Your strongly held opinions are not those of the Scottish majority.
What? How does that work?! You're not responsible enough to drive, unless you put on this uniform! Here, have a gun to go with it, but don't even think about having a drink for the next two years. The whole system at the moment is just a mess of random legislation created over centuries. There's no joined up thinking in the whole thing. It's ridiculous.
Most interesting stat about the 16-17 yr old voters was they where the age range that showed the most indecisive behaviour which shows they are too young to be voting in such important votes. At one stage they where 70% in favour of no, then at other 70% in favour of yes, kids that age are easily swayed or change their mind too often.
I learned to drive at Leconfield/Driffield in Yorkshire. I was driving HGVs at 17, load of Junior Leaders aged 16 were also driving HGVs, one of the ****ing idiots drove us into a ditch and landed on my side. As we came to a halt I saw smoke coming out of the gearbox, using all my training I wrenched the door open just enough for me to get out and legged it into a field leaving the driver to it.
They can serve in the millitary but not in combat and get married only with their parents permission. As for having kids, that's biologically possible at an even earlier age. Along with pretty much everybody else, I thought I new everything at 16. I now realise I knew jack and am under no illusion about knowing much more now. It was a cynical ploy for more votes pure and simple and still didn't glean the result they were looking for.
