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Match Thread: West Ham v Liverpool

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by Flappy Flanagan (JK), Sep 18, 2014.

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Is this poll good enough MITO?

Poll closed Sep 21, 2014.
  1. Yes

    30.8%
  2. No

    69.2%
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  1. FedLadSonOfAnfield

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    I'm done with Mignolet. He's gash. We need to get another goalie in at Christmas. This fella has no confidence or authority or strength of character. Our back four are constantly ****ting themselves about what he's doing and where he's going to be to concentrate on the jobs they've been set to do. There's just no way our whole roster of defenders is this **** so it has to be something else that's the problem... it's Mignolet. We bought him as a promising up and coming sort but he's now the going down and firing blanks sort. He hasn't progressed at all and I've no belief that he will. There's not a top class player in him and he's a cover goalie. Now don't you come on here defending him, I'm not interested, that's my position and I'll not change.
     
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  2. Daveunited

    Daveunited Well-Known Member

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    [video=youtube;diOGQqQnRPE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diOGQqQnRPE&list=UUd662u2E4wR7I-sGVIIT9ZA&index=1[/video]
     
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  3. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Actually I said

    I could see a scenario where Rodgers loses his job

    I said Gerrard cannot play 3 games in a week

    And I said badontelly had a lot to prove for me to change my opinion

    It's time to dig in for a long hard season lads, that's just the reality of it. 4th right now is an awful long way off but the first thing we need to see is a rollicking for some lads then a few tough (or not so tough) decisions and then individuals getting the basics down. That simple

    Nothing's lost but that'll change. I'd rather accept that and just focus on improvements
     
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  4. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Lucas was Piss poor trying to play box to box. He was at his best a simple 10 yard passer and patroller between the cbs and midfield. He lost his ability to really get about but still has the strength. He just is too limited to play further up! The fact is however Rodgers could have hooked Gerrard but left him on.

    It's very simple we have two player in Lucas and Gerrard for a dm really and that's it and oh oh neither can get about. If we rested Gerrard and stuck in Lucas it's be no worse but the issue is how the hell to get anything out of the rest. Henderson and Allen are it basically
     
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  5. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Manquillo was not ok but that's that it was done. We put sterling at right wing back so.........

    Anyway.... Moreno is a player of potential.

    Lallana and badontelly together represent 41 million of utter averageness so yeah applause to that....

    Markovic is young and rated but his debut was poor, he needs a lot of adaption time. He could be the lamela of our squad

    Well..... We will see
     
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  6. FedLadSonOfAnfield

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    Because changing to three at the back from four when we've already conceded two and are looking **** scared was #sense

    Rodgers ****ed it today, set us up wrong, changed it up wrong
     
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  7. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Honestly the game was lost in training ground. The first goal was pathetic from Henderson at the back stick and goal 2, back stick again although even if we'd defended the ball was in I suppose

    Going 3 at the back was IMO a look at the bench and saying oh **** how do I fix this midfield and defence.... He tried and honestly the issue was with 20 mins to go we were never ever going to score.... Again..... Lambert on, borini off just think on that crazy ****
     
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  8. FedLadSonOfAnfield

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    This is one of the main problems now, we're incapable of playing football inside the opposition's box. There's no creativity at the sharp end which is a mind **** considering the amount of money we've spent on supposedly attacking players. Where was Coutinho today? Being rested was it?
     
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  9. Lucaaas

    Lucaaas Well-Known Member

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    The 3 at the back was fine to steady things up and get us back into the game. I have no idea why he kept 3 at the back when West Ham brought an extra centre back on, it just meant we had 3 centre backs marking 1 striker and they were outnumbering us when we went forward. I think Rodgers should've been a little braver and bought on Markovic for Lovren/Skrtel in the last 10/20 mins.
     
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  10. FedLadSonOfAnfield

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    Jury's still out on Markovic, yeah. Skrtel and Lovren are sadly looking interchangeable in being half liability and half decent defenders. Our whole roster at the back's like that, you just can't ****ing tell what you're gonna get match to match with all of them. It's amazing because we've bought so many ****ing defenders now, you'd think one would just be good consistently and not swing from absolutely clueless to having a boss game all the time.
     
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  11. I hate three at the back and you won't find anyone that hates it more than me but we played better today after the switch. Still nowhere near good enough but better all the same.

    I believe I know what the problem is, if I'm right then I saw it coming...Balotelli. I know some will think I am picking on him but I'm genuinely not. He's actually impressed me more than not since we signed him, his ball control and ability to hold it up is superb, much better than I thought it was. However, his movement, energy and desire is EXACTLY how I expected and it has effected our game style. He is static and it stops us playing the free flowing football we had last season. Studge returning will help but there will still be a big guy sat in the middle that he and Sterling a have to work around! As I said, I'm not having a pop at or being unsupportive towards Balotelli, he just doesn't fit. His signing as meant we've had to change our approach and it will take time to adjust.

    PS...the Villa game annoyed me though, far too much change. Last season we kept banging on about SaS which later become SaSaS. Against Villa, not one of them were in the side for varying reasons!!!
     
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  12. FedLadSonOfAnfield

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    He's a lazy, selfish **** yeah. Can't disagree. Suarez was a selfish **** but was so by wanting to be at the centre of everything and this buzzing ball of energy. Massive difference. And there's ya problem. I'm not impressed with Balotelli so far, attitude wise, he's too solipsistic and moody.
     
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  13. If Mario was willing to let others play the one two off him it wouldn't be so bad either but he receives the ball and looks for the shot, that's all he has!
     
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  14. His attitude as been better than I expected (so far), he's not been as lazy as I thought he would be either. However, that does not mean I think both are at a good enough level, they're not. Hence me saying prior to actually signing him I'd rather keep Borini than sign Mario and I still stand by that!

    I am aware that this is the third comment in a short time period moaning about Mario and I obvious have previous too so I am going to point out that it is in no way Mario's fault we lost today. I am talking about the one good performance (Spurs) in five so far. We lack the cutting edge we had last season and I genuinely don't think it purely Suarez since we still had that edge when Luis was missing.
     
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  15. FedLadSonOfAnfield

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    He's no a creator that's for sure. Suarez was creator, scorer, ****ing dora the explorer. Whatever you wanted him to do he could do, or tried to. Everytime he pulled on our jersey he wanted to protect it and win in it. that's his character. B isn't like this, he sulks, is moody, doesn't have the same fight, prone to disappearing. Suarez never disappeared, he always stood up to be accounted for.
     
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  16. Rubbersoul

    Rubbersoul Well-Known Member

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    I'm sorry but Balotelli has done nothing wrong in any game he's been in, the service he has been provided has been non existent, I said earlier on this page I would like to see how many passes he actually received this match, the amount of times I saw him pull from his man to just be ignored was outrageous, this guy has played for big clubs his whole career and scored big goals but when he pulls into space the likes of Adam Lallana thinks it alright to bypass him. People on here who didn't want him will put the knife in however. His chances in the game came to three, one ended up being our goal and the other two forced a save and resulted in another **** corner.

    Balotelli really isn't the problem, the set up play is to many players thinking they can run forever with the ball, what happened to our one touch pass and move style of play last year?
     
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  17. jaffaSlot

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    We play with no urgency, no snap to our play like we had last season. We look identical to the season before last and I don't think we will be anywhere near good enough for the top 4.
     
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  18. Mario was never expected to replace Suarez either, I never expected us to replace Suarez but if you'd given me a choice of one characteristic to replace it would have been his desire. That is why I was keen on the likes of Lavezzi and Tevez (briefly mentioned)
     
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  19. I didn't want him but I'm not putting the knife in. I've said he's done nothing wrong too. I'm talking about what is difference from last season to this and why we look so flat.
     
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  20. Rubbersoul

    Rubbersoul Well-Known Member

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    Lavezzi the guy who can't get in the PSG squad over a make shift Cavani on the wing and Carlos 'I'm not coming on to play Bayern boss because I don't fancy it' Tevez to replace the desire? Cmon now.
     
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