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Hoop-Leif

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Isla -just wtf

Rio - gtf out the team, way way past it for this league

Fer - Just wtf does he do? Box to box player my backside

The Actual Team as a whole - How do they get into the prem and then proceed to look like they would rather be in Gosport in a Wetherspoons than actually compete and show heart?

Qprs training team - Wtf do they do? Don't get anyone match fit and somehow make all the players hamstrings pop at every opportunity??!!

Harry - Just wtf does he do in terms of teamwork and cohesion?

Still early in the season but I'm so depressed already..... just looks like more of the same as last time we were in the prem
 
To be Fer, Fer was much improved in the 2nd half. Wasent hard I know. Isla, bloody useless, my granny would be better and shes sadly passed away!
 
isla -just wtf

rio - gtf out the team, way way past it for this league

fer - just wtf does he do? Box to box player my backside

the actual team as a whole - how do they get into the prem and then proceed to look like they would rather be in gosport in a wetherspoons than actually compete and show heart?

Qprs training team - wtf do they do? Don't get anyone match fit and somehow make all the players hamstrings pop at every opportunity??!!

Harry - just wtf does he do in terms of teamwork and cohesion?

Still early in the season but i'm so depressed already..... Just looks like more of the same as last time we were in the prem

wtf
 
Isla -just wtf

Rio - gtf out the team, way way past it for this league

Fer - Just wtf does he do? Box to box player my backside

The Actual Team as a whole - How do they get into the prem and then proceed to look like they would rather be in Gosport in a Wetherspoons than actually compete and show heart?

Qprs training team - Wtf do they do? Don't get anyone match fit and somehow make all the players hamstrings pop at every opportunity??!!

Harry - Just wtf does he do in terms of teamwork and cohesion?

Still early in the season but I'm so depressed already..... just looks like more of the same as last time we were in the prem

I think a part of what you're saying is right but a part is wrong.

Firstly, yes... there's no excuse for the management and staff to be putting out a team that aren't well drilled and fully on board with a cohesive plan. This is what I don't like about Harry. Actually, I also don't like the fact that he chooses his favourite players rather than the players who are in form.

But you are wrong to expect so much. We've just been promoted from the championship. Do you want us to be trouncing teams week in week out? We're going to have ropey moments whilst we try to adjust. We got a point today and sometimes survival is all down to scrapping at draws like that.
 
Fer played well eventually.

My gripe is why two midfielders, who were both injured last week, were BOTH allowed to start.
One is a reasonable gamble...two is not.

Having to substitute two players to "known" injuries was a waste...the game could have been different if we could have afforded to bring Junior in as our first substitute early second half.
That is bad managing (and bad luck)...but a good manger doesn't get caught out by bad luck.

But the team grafted, Fer, Henry, Philipps, Caulker and even Traore worked their socks off
And Niko, was outstanding.

So a few positives
 
How do they get into the prem and then proceed to look like they would rather be in Gosport in a Wetherspoons than actually compete and show heart?

But the team grafted, Fer, Henry, Philipps, Caulker and even Traore worked their socks off.

Two supporters having watched the same game but with total opposite viewpoints
 
Interesting discussion on the post match football show here in Canada with Craig Forrest (an excellent analyst), that touched on how Southampton can sell off their best players for £100 million, yet quickly re-build a highly competitive squad that has gelled and are quickly winning games. He puts it down to smart management combined with some canny scouting, that has brought in some relatively unknown players who gel quickly as a team. How is it we can't do that? We've now gone through two major team re-building attempts in the Premier League without this type of instant success.
 
There was some positives, Niko was certainly one but I wont add to my Arry out post last week but honestly at times we didnt have a clue with and without the ball. We were weak and at times totally naive

We were lucky we were playing Stoke because against a more ruthless team we would have got spanked by our terrible defending and again lack of desire. At one time Stoke were 4 v 2 and our midfield were jogging back!!!!!!!!!!!

Also although Stoke could have had two sent off for crude challenges and (although a poor team} they cared and were prepared to do anything to stop us and had 3 players at times throwing themselves in front of shots whereas I dont see that commitment from us? Why?...... Does Arry think we are too good for that. He has to realise we are in a battle and need to tackle, show commitment and desire and the football will then start to flow.
 
Plenty of spirit and fight today, which pleased me.

..... and again lack of desire. At one time Stoke were 4 v 2 and our midfield were jogging back!!!!!!!!!!! I dont see that commitment from us? Why?...... we are in a battle and need to tackle, show commitment and desire.

Two supporters having watched the same game but with total opposite viewpoints
 
Interesting discussion on the post match football show here in Canada with Craig Forrest (an excellent analyst), that touched on how Southampton can sell off their best players for £100 million, yet quickly re-build a highly competitive squad that has gelled and are quickly winning games. He puts it down to smart management combined with some canny scouting, that has brought in some relatively unknown players who gel quickly as a team. How is it we can't do that? We've now gone through two major team re-building attempts in the Premier League without this type of instant success.

Failing to build such a team once is understandable but twice? No.
 
Interesting discussion on the post match football show here in Canada with Craig Forrest (an excellent analyst), that touched on how Southampton can sell off their best players for £100 million, yet quickly re-build a highly competitive squad that has gelled and are quickly winning games. He puts it down to smart management combined with some canny scouting, that has brought in some relatively unknown players who gel quickly as a team. How is it we can't do that? We've now gone through two major team re-building attempts in the Premier League without this type of instant success.


Weeull its difficult innit?

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Failing to build such a team once is understandable but twice? No.

The buck stops with Teflon Tony.

Almost certainly alone in this but I'd rather see us as a fans owned club like FC United or AFC Wimbledon rebooting down in the Isthmian League than the debt and all the bullshìt we've suffered since TF has taken charge.

Had to be said even if it took me a few beers to say it.
 
Still can't believe the way Caulker was getting manhandled by Shawcross today. Shoddy reffing.

To be fair Toad, this goes on in every game in all leagues. The refs have to be brave to call a foul which they would do anywhere else on the pitch
 
Bigchazqpr:7099012 said:
Still can't believe the way Caulker was getting manhandled by Shawcross today. Shoddy reffing.

their first goal was one of the most blatant bit of climbing by crouch i've ever seen in 35 years of going to football. How it was allowed I'll never know….

I agree. But strange how Ferdinand who did not contest.