Spurf, I know that you are English but you were fighting for the Scots and adopted their attitude didn't you? I am not obsessed. My claim that to the Scots who voted yes this was just as much getting away from England as it was about independence stands. I NEVER said that the Scots are anti Welsh or Irish, only anti English and you mentioned that this was just as much about changing politics in ENGLAND as much as about changing politics in Scotland, you did not mention anything about changing politics in Wales or Ireland. Westminster is full of Celts with some ethnic minority members too. So is Scotland a prosperous country as CNN stated in one of its many emissions about the referendum? if so then Westminster can't be doing too bad a job can it?
Here is a report of the referendum without the bias of UK media. [video=youtube;MXJk2ZodaNw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=MXJk2ZodaNw[/video]
Yes but much closer to the truth than our propaganda station the BBC. I don't think you quite believe me. Just to confirm, the BBC in it's news coverage is a state broadcaster in the mold of Pravda. There are many good balanced programmes from all points of view in it's general programming in particular on Radio 4, but the news coverage is way off fair or balanced. The views expressed by RT are in line with the views of Business for Scotland that I work with. So for me it was a surprise and a pleasure to hear them broadcast from elsewhere. You talk to me of propaganda PNP. I and my 1.6 million friends have just taken on the full might of the Westminster Establishment. We had one, ONE newspaper The Herald on Sunday on our side. ALL of the rest were spouting Westminster propaganda. We faced a barage of lies and supressed truths. Our pensioners were told they would lose their pensions if they voted YES, our oil was running out, our banks would move out, the NHS we would lose, Our Universities would not get funding, these and a host of other lies were fed to our population and the rest of the UK but despite all of that and more we scared the establishment ****less and we took the YES vote from 25% to 45%. We only lost because our pensioners scared of the change because of all the lies they had been told by their very own Labour Party, voted 73% to 27% for NO. Don't talk to me about propaganda PNP I know ALL about propaganda.
When you start to believe that a station like RT is more accurate than the BBC, then something's gone badly wrong, Spurf. Various journalists have quit because of the bias that's rife within the organisation and it's literally there as Putin's mouthpiece. The fact that Business for Scotland agree with them should be a massive red flag for them.
Granted that the Westminster parliament and their supposed mouthpiece, the BBC, are far from perfect. But to try and portray anything that comes out of Putin's "My version of Russia today" as more accurate, is ludicrous, IMO.
Isn't it amazing that countries around the globe are splitting up into...tribes?...with one or two like Putin having to use tanks to do it his way.In his case he's an old KGB man who wants a return to his old wicked ways.If he had used his brain instead of his finger,he could have worked out something with United Nations over the Ukraine border people who swear they are Russian.Remember Hitler and the "German Czechs"?
That is how wrong it is PNP the very fact that I am having this battle to convince you. shows the strength of their propaganda. Come up to Scotland for a month and I will prove to you what I am saying, but in any case their lies will be exposed as we go along.
It's only ludricious because you are British, from their point of view what comes out of the BBC news is equally ludricous. And the fact that the RT report on the state of Scotland is far more accurate than the Westminster view should make you stop and think. Dismiss me if you like that is your perogative but I have a perspective here and I have seen what I am reporting with my own eyes.
Consider this: The views I am expressing are to you quite surprising, shocking even, but to the 1.6 million who voted YES they are the norm.
Milliband has stated that he won't sign up to Cameron's devolution plan, they're not happy on facebook Scotland with that. They're saying that Milliband's promise lasted 9 hours and that they'll never vote Labour again. Right, now that the referendum is over and Scotland is decided and will no longer take centre stage with their greetin let's concentrate now on some fairness for England. I say this because this is what Milliband wants, to my great surprise.
http://nationalcollective.com/2014/09/20/statement-how-we-won-and-how-we-will-win/ The National Collective is a group of over 2000 Scottish writers and artists. People in England need to educate themselves, just take the time to read this report it will give you a clearer idea of the referendum than a newspaper.
For a long long time. Those youngsters who voted yes will be pensioners by the time another referendum would come about if at all and they wouldn't want their pensions eroded by high prices and high taxes if Scotland ever goes independent so they, like the present day pensioners would vote no. Scotland will NEVER be independent, you're stuck with us.
Britain had a referendum in 1975 re European membership. If Cameron is elected again he's promised another in 2017, that's 42 years between the two which would be the sort of timescale for another referendum in Scotland.
