an awful lot of people don't get it. hull city is a religion for some of us, and you know how mental some people get about their religion. to others it's clearly like an evening at the cinema.
I really don't see why people get so bothered by the "we say no Allam" chant. it's not offensive or anti-Allam, its purely against the name change decision. And to suggest people who are against the name change should sing chants supportive of Allam is pushing it a bit, just because you don't want him to leave doesn't mean you are massively supportive of him given whats happened.
Each to their own, i'm not a member of CTWD, i've been firmly in the ALLAM OUT camp since he first piped up with this nonsense.
This board is going to the dogs. Comparing Assam Allam to a child rapist and then taking the moral high ground when it's challenged because City is your 'religion' is laughable and pathetic in equal measure. Whinging, moaning, attention seeking cry babies who need to have a word with themselves. I really do wonder what sort of lives some on here lead to carry on like this. I really do.
do one, arsewipe. your white feather is in the post. i compared the situation. some people have nothing but gratitude. others have gratitude tempered by his behaviour. if you really needed that explaining, perhaps you should go back to the noddy and big-ears forum.
In truth I've never understood the desire to claim one fan is better than another, but I respect others need to do so if that floats your boat. But the bottom line is that it doesn't make your opinion any more valid than other fans.
Yeah, but you're making it sound like an evening at the cinema is the worse option. I read that as "us full on fans are the example to follow, the more laid back fans who might not like singing aren't as good". Some people don't support City with full on fervour and madness, some just do it by going to the games. Just because somebody doesn't have the club crest tattooed on the back of their head or even that they don't own a replica shirt, it doesn't make them any less of a fan than somebody who does. I'd rather go to a cinema than church. It's more expensive but at least the stories are more convincing. (That might get this thread shut down....)
i didn't say it was. i was just trying to make whoever it was understand that some us of have a different point of view. and, actually, yes, the people who treat is like a trip to the cinema are not fans in the same way that others are. if it's not an emotional attachment, they're not fans, full stop, end of.
as i just said, if there's no emotional connection, not a fan. if i go to the cinema it's in the hope of seeing a decent film and being entertained. if i go watch city it's more. i don't get emotionally attached to a cinema or a film, even if it does have a moving story or endearing characters. i don't go to the same cinema for years on end. any will do, though it may be sad to see a good one go. i don't go watch the same film for years on end. church is all based on lies anyway. is the thread still going? had the alleged god struck me dead yet? no? the big puff.
Who says those other fans don't have an emotional attachment? Like I say it's dodgy ground to get into the old "Better Fan" argument which was how your "Cinema" description came over as.
let me put it this way: if it hurts to lose, if you go to watch hull city, you're a fan. if it doesn't hurt to lose and you go for a decent game whoever wins and you go to watch the other team's stars, you're a customer and should have no say about the club.
Fair enough, that's your view of what makes a fan, and it's not too far away from how I would view it. But by that definition those fans who booed aren't necessarily doing it because they don't care about the Club. I would suggest the exact opposite.
fine, but that isn't what i was arguing. the "be beholden and ignore everything else" line is alien to many. as is the "blame ctwd for everything bad that ever happens" line. the only thing that could make allam walk away when the name change appeal gets rejected is allam himself. ctwd have repeatedly said they support him except for the name change, but there are too many people who ignore half of that and think ctwd have some mysterious power over thousands of fans at each match. it's absurd.
On the contrary. As has already been seen CTWD have a great deal of influence and are the voice of a significant number of fans. If that were not the case why would they now be evolving themselves into a fans liaison group. As for conveniently separating opposing Assem Allam's vision for the club from Assem Allam the man, I just don't accept that can be done. It's either all or nothing, certainly as far as he is concerned. You can't have your cake and eat it.
they're changing the role of the organisation because the reason ctwd was set up is now dealt with and over, despite one man's opinion. there is no adequate fans' representative body. the osc is as limp as a paper bag in a monsoon. allam has come up with no evidence that a name change would make a jot of difference to finances. we're still waiting. why does it have to be all or nothing? don't you know people you like who have an irritating habit? for me, allam has loads. if he dropped the name change plan, i'd have less of a problem with him. do you want me to start campaigning for him to leave just because i want him to drop the name change nonsense? i'm grateful that someone put the money in to save the club, but that does not give him carte blanche and nor should it.
