ffs, give up, tell by that answer where you want to go with this. was a simple question, you are trying to tell us there maybe some sort of voting fraud going on, yet there is yes votes ON DISPLAY!! on a no vote pile. either this is bollocks or the person(s) who attempted the fraud are ****ing ******ed.
This is a clear case of mental conditioning if ever I seen one, where you discount what you see with your own eyes. Yes votes in no pile and you just can't compute it That was recorded from Sky this morning paused and zoomed in on by whomever recorded it. I bet Sky won't broadcast that bit of footage again mind you
no its you that fail to compute, again! you don't think its too convenient that yes votes are on display on top of the pile in a no vote pile? ok i give up as you were with your conspiracy theories lol
Apart from Andy Murray who is comfortable finacially,people are worried about their pensions, ( especially retired ones and those that are approaching retirement age). To be sure of regular pensions the answer have to be NO.
Ok I reckon this thread has nearly run it's course so please users state if closing it tonight is ok. At least some debate on what happens now is possible but f me this was a long winded referendum and it's over Let me know Tonight seems fair
i was going to say sunday might be best as i should imagine information will come out in dribs and drabs all day, so give people time to give their thoughts on this. then i remembered saturday tomorrow and footie is on again bollocks to the politics talk and more about the footie lol.
Interesting little side story that I saw on this: Ukip leader Nigel farage has written to all 59 Scottish mp's to request they agree to no longer vote on mattes that only effect England in the uk parliament.
Leave it to run it's course, it doens't need your intervention, as once it ceases to be topical it'll die off naturally.
As usual you take nads internet sources as being factual. I watched that live last night and there were mixed bundles of ballot papers on a large table, the table had a sheet of paper with No hanging off it and there was piles of Yes votes on it Unfortunately for the conspiracy theorists none of them had been counted at that point they had just been plonked on that table, a fact spelled out by Sky and they then showed someone moving some of the papers to the counting section.
Dem' lizards again. Was there 10% of the national vote on this table, Sis? Christ, you are ****ing tedious. (That's Sisu, Messiah, not you).
I hope all 59 Scottish MP's write to Farage and tell him to mind his own business until he actually stands for parliament and becomes an MP himself.
He has stood for parliament. He stood against Bercow in the last election. And he's represented the country as an mep. He's also the leader of the fourth largest party in the uk who won a seat in EVERY area in the European elections (which ukip won). He definitely has some credibility as a politician and it wouldn't surprise me to see the other large parties follow suit with a call for Scottish mp's not to be able to vote on English matters.
It will be interesting to see what powers come to all the parts of the UK. If not fudged which of course it might be, it really will put real powers in hands locally (God help us in NI lol). This could mean a tax and welfare system that reflects the different needs of each area. My main concern would be with you Poor English once again, the ranglings will return to party political. Labour will block any England only assembly as a whole as it will empower the Tories and the Tories won't want power devolved to regional assemblies within England for the same reason. The speed with which they are promising to deliver is astonishing.....packages ready by January 2015! Although not being able to bog it down may mean it comes out better.......
Who cares what you reckon MITO. The result in Scotland gives rise to many debates about the future in the rest of the UK (democratically far more important than Scotland!). You are not the final arbiter concerning when that discussion is finished!!!
I agree- though in a somewhat less confrontational manner. Just because the referendum is over doesn't mean the debate is. This thread isn't really hurting anyone, and unless it becomes pointlessly abusive I think it should be left until it dies a natural death.
shut it you tart sorry mate only messing, although tart isnt really offensive any way lol. unless you is a woman back to the point, in a way i am a bit gutted they didn't win the vote, i get why they would want more say in their own country and have more power than they do now, trouble is they would soon have realized like the rest of us here do already, that it doesn't matter how much power you think you may have, it is still dependant on the ****s in charge making the decisions for you, and you can bet your ass you wont get a referendum on it either.
