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CTWD statement - No civil war on 1904...

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  1. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator
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    No civil war on 1904

    On Monday evening during the West Ham game, the singing of "City Till I Die" on 19 minutes and four seconds was met by sporadic booing from some sections of The Circle. The booing led to arguments between fans at the game, and on message boards and fans' forums afterwards. This was particularly disappointing, given Steve Bruce's plea ahead of the game for the fans to unite behind the team.

    City Till We Die were appalled and saddened by the booing. When we chose to publicise and energise our campaign against owner Assem Allam's plan to change the historic name of our club, we chose a song sung at a time that demonstrated our commitment to our club, our city and our history.

    “City Till I Die” is a song that has been sung by Hull City AFC supporters all over Britain, Europe and the world, for more years than any of us can remember. We chose to do this in line with our campaign aims of always positively supporting the team as we attempted to protect the club's name. We knew we had been successful in this when club Vice Chairman Ehab Allam said on Radio Humberside earlier this year that he enjoyed hearing the 19:04 singing, as it was the loudest and most enthusiastic our home support ever became.

    The name change campaign ended on April 9th when the FA voted overwhelmingly and unequivocally to accept the recommendation of their Members Committee that our club would retain the name Hull City. Since that point we have not asked fans to sing “City Till I Die” on 19:04 as the campaign has ended, in success. We make this point as it seems likely that the booing has been provoked by Assem Allam's press conference last week, in which he repeated previously made claims of initiating legal action and of using various appeals processes against the FA's decision. City Till We Die was disappointed to hear this, but believe it changes nothing.

    The club first talked of making an appeal in March before the FA had even made their decision. The FA has no appeal process for this type of decision and their process – taking evidence from the Club, the East Riding FA, the Hull City Official Supporters Club and City Till We Die, as well as local and national elected politicians – was clearly fair and equitable. City Till We Die therefore believe the name change debate is over.

    We are now putting our energies into setting up a Supporters Trust, in line with the wishes of our members.

    Though we are no longer campaigning, we're not surprised that fans have continued to sing "City Till I Die" on 19:04. Like Ehab Allam we believe it has enhanced support for Steve Bruce and the team. We know that a lot of fans sing this to celebrate our historic identity and our current success. It is not an anti-Allam song. It never has been. Because City Till We Die have never been an anti-Allam organisation. But we do ask all fans, whether you sing at 19:04 or whether you don't, to respect your fellow Hull City fans.

    Sing whatever you like to support the manager and the team. But please don't boo. We hope that means that all of us, the fans and the club, can move on together, supporting our team loudly and passionately, everywhere we go, as our football adventure continues. We want to enjoy supporting our team. We want no civil war on 19:04.

    City Till We Die Supporters Group.

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  2. balkan tiger

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    Once again the willing volunteers showing how it should be done.
     
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  3. John Ex Aberdeen now E.R.

    John Ex Aberdeen now E.R. Well-Known Member

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    Well put and sums it up in a nut shell.
     
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  4. upper west

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    Can this be published in the Hull Daily Mail &/or on flyers so that supporters who don't have access to the internet get the message?

    We need to put this to bed asap & enjoy what could be our best ever season
     
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  5. originallambrettaman

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    I emailed it to Burnsy and to Phil Buckingham ahead of posting it on here, hopefully both will publicise its content. <ok>
     
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  6. renegadetiger

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    This for me is key.

    Excellent statement which I wholeheartedly support, but you need to make sure it's distributed through more traditional channels as well as via the internet, or it won't reach as much of the target audience as it needs to.
     
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  7. renegadetiger

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    Crossed posts.
     
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  8. disquietTiger

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    Top notch guys!

    There should never be booing of fellow City supporters. I'd much prefer it if an pro-name change sang their own song in reply (at 20:14), although I wouldn't join in nor would i share their sentiment, its support for the team and will only add to the atmosphere not detract from it.
     
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  9. upper west

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    Good work. Is it possible to include the statement in the programme for the next home game? Or is that under the beady eye of the madman as well?
     
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  10. originallambrettaman

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    Unfortunately, I don't think the club will print a statement that suggests the name change debacle is already over.
     
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  11. Hiker

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    Well worded statement as always. As a member of CTWD, thank you.
     
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  12. upper west

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    'No civil war on 19:04' has a ring to it - congrats to whoever thought that up, brilliant!

    A few flyers with it on, in & out of the KC at the next home game might help?
     
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  13. originallambrettaman

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    The credit goes to TedLloyd on CI, I did ask his permission before nicking it. <laugh>
     
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  14. Altrincham Tiger

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    A great statement that I agree with unequivocally.

    Could it possibly be distributed as printed flyers at the next home match?
     
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  15. I'mBetterThanYouIWentTo..

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    Really well put - hopefully it'll have the desired effect on all in the KC.
     
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  16. CANADATIGER

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    Very well said OLM. Lets end the civil war and name calling right now and unite in supporting our fine team on the field and the best Manager we've ever had. These are the best times in our history.
     
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  17. ILivedTheDream

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    I'm glad CTWD have made an attempt to calm the situation. The last thing we need is arguing (or worse) between our own fans, especially at games. I just hope it is enough.
     
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  18. Tobes

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    It's all very well being "appalled" by the booing, but it patently reflects the mood of a segment of your fanbase.

    They obviously chose to boo to show that they disapprove of the ongoing battle with your owners and the song sung at that point was how you demonstrated that during the campaign. Post Allams comments last week they were patently eager to let you and the wider public know that you're not all singing from the same hymnsheet.
     
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  19. Kempton

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    Who on earth could find fault with this statement ? As classy and dignified as our protest group have been from the very start <ok>
     
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  20. Leon T Trout AFC

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    Well played CTWD.

    Surely, such a thoughtful and unprovocative press release will only inspire thoughtful and unprovocative responses.

    Won&#8217;t it?
     
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