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If he was as good as you and others make out he'd be around the squad. Pretty much proves fabregas is and has been the superior player by some distance.

Genuine question though, is he the most expensive uncapped player ever??

Perhaps. It means nothing. ****ing international football. ****e.

He will be in their side soon enough. De gea has just one cap and hes world class and the best keeper in the premier league.
 
And ?!?!? The simple answer is he's not good enough.

Means nothing. Second rate level for players anyway.

You base your opinion on nothing as you know nothing of him. Understandable. Stupid.

No my opinion is based on the fact that he can't even get capped for Spain despite playing in Spain. Cesc broke into that squad as a youngster in a foreign league. Herrera has also achieved nothing at club level and has an appealing goals record. All that hardly adds up to world beater. Time will of course tell but some are judging on a home game v qpr !!
 
No my opinion is based on the fact that he can't even get capped for Spain despite playing in Spain. Cesc broke into that squad as a youngster in a foreign league. Herrera has also achieved nothing at club level and has an appealing goals record. All that hardly adds up to world beater. Time will of course tell but some are judging on a home game v qpr !!

Or when he dominated a full strength barcelona midfield, a manchester united midfield that less than a year earlier had played Cl final. Or the fact hes one of rhe highest rated midfielders in spain who doesnt play for barcelona or madrid. Try watching the lad something. You'll seenl what the fuss is about and why we waited a ****ing year flr him.

Done that before asnwell. Remember ruud?
 
No my opinion is based on the fact that he can't even get capped for Spain despite playing in Spain. Cesc broke into that squad as a youngster in a foreign league. Herrera has also achieved nothing at club level and has an appealing goals record. All that hardly adds up to world beater. Time will of course tell but some are judging on a home game v qpr !!

Or when he dominated a full strength barcelona midfield, a manchester united midfield that less than a year earlier had played Cl final. Or the fact hes one of rhe highest rated midfielders in spain who doesnt play for barcelona or madrid. Try watching the lad something. You'll seenl what the fuss is about and why we waited a ****ing year flr him.

Done that before asnwell. Remember ruud?

Again if all true why over looked by country and the big spanish clubs? Maybe a couple of good games followed by months of mediocrity.
 
When was this so called domination performance anyway? Does anyone else know about it ?!


Dec 2013. He had actually been poor all season. A little out of favour after the united move fell through. Came upnagainsr barcelona though and bossed it. Created 2 goals, a beast in midfield keeping barcelona at bay. Completely out classed (not played, if you consider a billion useless passes as playing anyway) their midfield. His midfield partner isnt too bad himself. Also not capped either. Massive talent.
 
They can't all play together can they?

I explained why Falcao isn't in yet. Yet is a word that indicates a change is possible in the future.

Mata just doesn't fit. Rooney is better and has to play, Sterling and Di Maria have to play too.

RVP has done nothing since Moyes arrived to indicate he should play over Sturridge.

Who plays over Henderson? Allen, Fellaini, Gerrard, Blind...?

Has Shaw even played yet? Both Moreno and Shaw had great seasons before making their moves. Moreno has been MOTM twice already. He's in. You've offered absolutely no credible opinion thus far, give a reasoned response or just leave it be.

Falcao and RVP are both a lot better than Sturridge regardless of your explanation as to why Sturridge should be ahead of them. Both had injury hit seasons last year, which doesn't make them bad players. RVP still scored a few when he played though. Sturridge if he was at Man Utd would have been surplus to requirements just like Danny Welbeck has been.

Mata is a lot better than Rooney in the number 10 role. Rooney isn't a quality number 10. His best position is striker, though even he'd struggle to get in the team as a striker.

Carrick, Gerrard and Blind are all better than Henderson. Henderson isn't a quality player.

The only Liverpool players that probably get in the team are Sterling and a couple of defenders maybe. But that's about it :biggrin:

Sturridge's record since joining us makes him pretty undroppable. Agree Falcao, Rooney and RVP have the pedigree but Sturridge has it on merit right now. That might change of course.

Agree Mata is better at 10 but Rooney has to play somewhere because he's too good to drop. A problem United and England most likely will have this year.

You have no idea what Sturridge would've been like at United. Neither do I - but I imagine United's coaches would've been equal to ours in helping him reach his potential.

Carrick is good but no... Gerrard is being carried in most aspects of his game by Henderson (and Allen)... So no. Blind? Too early.

On Manquillo to whoever said he's from a midtable Spanish club, he's from Atletico... And has done well so far. Not world class or anything but looks a player. Both our sides lack real quality at RB. Rafael looked great in Fergie's last season or two from memory but he's not at that level right now.
 
Sturridge's record since joining us makes him pretty undroppable. Agree Falcao, Rooney and RVP have the pedigree but Sturridge has it on merit right now. That might change of course.

Agree Mata is better at 10 but Rooney has to play somewhere because he's too good to drop. A problem United and England most likely will have this year.

You have no idea what Sturridge would've been like at United. Neither do I - but I imagine United's coaches would've been equal to ours in helping him reach his potential.

Carrick is good but no... Gerrard is being carried in most aspects of his game by Henderson (and Allen)... So no. Blind? Too early.

On Manquillo to whoever said he's from a midtable Spanish club, he's from Atletico... And has done well so far. Not world class or anything but looks a player. Both our sides lack real quality at RB. Rafael looked great in Fergie's last season or two from memory but he's not at that level right now.


Gerrard has been on the slide for the last couple of years. The sewer rat helped him but now Stevie is ruthlessly being exposed as slower and his long balls are no longer defining, more hiding his lack of pace.

#captaincannotbedropped <laugh>
 
Wheres those chelsea lads. Can we continue the discussion over fabregas. Poor second half, at fault for thei goal. Shouldnt have scored either.
 
I must admit I think Fabregas is a very good player. Oscar, not so much as he hasn't done anything for far too long.
 
I must admit I think Fabregas is a very good player. Oscar, not so much as he hasn't done anything for far too long.

He didn't look all that special last night. Turned into a pretty desperate performance all round for chelsea.