Reform chaotic transfer system for sake of English players - Dyke Football Association chairman Greg Dyke has said reforming the "chaotic" transfer system will increase opportunities for English players. On Tuesday, the FA sent out its first draft of proposals to reduce the number of non-EU players within English football by up to 50%. "The present system is chaotic," Dyke told BBC Sport. "There are mediocre players that come and take squad places - those could be filled by young English players." Proposed rule changes have been sent to the Premier League, the Football League and the players' and managers' unions. The FA hopes a new system can be in place for the 2015-16 season. "Eighty per cent of the players that come in from outside of the EU come in on appeal, where the manager goes along with a video and shows it to a committee and they say, "well, he looks a good player". "We want to get rid of that subjective part and say you either meet these criteria or you don't." Up until the end of last season, 122 non-EU players had entered English football since 2009. "I think what we hope will happen is roughly half the number of players that are now coming from outside the EU won't be able to get in here," added the former BBC director general. "It's not vast numbers. But if you think 30-a-year won't come, won't be in squads, it means places for English kids in the squads." Greg Dyke on the proposals What we hope will happen is roughly half the number of players that are now coming from outside the EU won't be able to get in here. Asked whether the Premier League clubs would oppose the proposal, Dyke said: "The analysis we've done says we're not bringing in the best talent. "There's quite a lot of players coming in who aren't the elite. They come and they take squad places - often they only stay a year or two. Some are going into the Football League. "We've already talked to the Football League and Premier League. They're going to set up groups to look at it." On B teams In 2013, Dyke helped set up an FA Commission - made up of experienced figures in the industry - to look at the state of the English game at club and national level. One of the proposals was the creation of a new tier within the Football League for Premier League B teams. Twenty of the 25 players in the squad would have to qualify for the home-grown rule and no non-EU players would be allowed. "We're still discussing with the Football League and others about some possibilities about how to introduce B-Teams. We'll see what happens," Dyke said. "I think B teams in a competitive environment is still a possibility." On the England national team Following the disappointment of the World Cup, Dyke said he was confident coach Roy Hodgson was building for the future. England began their Euro 2016 qualification campaign with a 2-0 win in Switzerland. The starting XI featured seven players under the age of 25. "I think obviously he will play some younger players in the next qualifier against San Marino, and look to two years time and bring in younger players." On Sepp Blatter Dyke said Blatter was too old to stand again for the Fifa presidency. The FA chairman criticised the Swiss this summer for labelling the British media as racist, after they reported allegations of corruption surrounding Qatar's victory to host the 2022 World Cup. "My position - and the FA's position - on Sepp Blatter is that there should be a competition," he added, after former Fifa deputy general secretary Jerome Champagne announced his decision to stand against the Swiss. "I think he'll probably win. He's not doing the right thing. [He] said four years ago, 'I'm not standing again' and got elected on that basis. "Sometimes in this world you have to let younger men have their time and I think seeing old men standing at the age of 78 for another four years is a mistake." http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/29239932
"Eighty per cent of the players that come in from outside of the EU come in on appeal, where the manager goes along with a video and shows it to a committee and they say, "well, he looks a good player". "We want to get rid of that subjective part and say you either meet these criteria or you don't." ------------------------------------ true, but missed out the important part as far as clubs are concerned and thats price! a player abroad is a hell of a lot cheaper than english players, so i find this quite insulting to clubs actually as they have done nothing to address the ridiculous prices put on english players heads.
Also... "122 non-EU players had entered English football since 2009" ...thats an average of 24.4 players a season, or one of the twenty squads if you like. Hardly a earth shattering amount is it? He's not even talking about stopping all of them either
i should have put an also on end of mine as well when clubs do produce english players like sturridge,sterling henderson etc they are then subjected to ****ing roy, and he does his best to injure them the ****.
its the noyl thing they can do but they provided top teams an out by setting a tiny minimum fee so if you pay 10/15mil i think you get your permit.
what's the rule for swansea any way, not in their interest to produce english players, but welsh ones surely?
Another point - foreign managers will always want foreign players. If English players are to be given increased opportunities, then British and Irish managers need to be given increased opportunities.
This whole discussion is around wanting to improve the national side. What if your preference is the club you support over the national team? In that instance, who gives a ****?
i think that 1: if you are a prem side you can buy good internationals from argentina and brazil and africa no problem still. 2. if you are a player form these places you go find a dodgy portugese passport and dodge. 3. it really only targets small clubs. those who can't afford a big name AND who should be working on english youth anyway.... I'm sure lfc would love to not bother to comply. coutinho, lucas don't meet the rules for example. kolo toure is retired now? Prob 2 of those at least have the possibility to be naturalised or whatever its called as they've been here 5 years BUT it should perclude a paletta, insua, gonzalez, cavileiri type player.............. If you find a messi i'm sure you'll find a away to get him in
Agreed. Following Liverpool is far more important to me than the National side. I watch internationals because I'll watch almost any football for the entertainment, but I don't have the same emotional involvement. I have no desire to see the success of my club side compromised just to make some marginal improvements to the National team and satisfy somebody's idea of patriotism.
Question; have you always seen it like that or did you view change over the years? Reason I ask is because I used to love watching and following England, probably more so than Liverpool for a time. however, I can't remember the last time it was like that for me, nor do I ever expect it to be that way again.
I've always been the same. I can't remember a time when I would have preferred country to club, tbh. I can watch England, I can even get behind them, but I can't feel the excitement that I do with Liverpool. I can feel really down for a while when we lose, but it really doesn't bother me too much if England do. Though I do get frustrated seeing them being mismanaged the way they are at the moment.
When I said "more so for a time", I was meaning when I was a nine year old kid (Italia 90). I think it was because friends and family got together and supported the same side which I thought was great. I can't recall ever wanting England to do better than Liverpool though.
More English player abroad, more English players, its a fact not an opinion, more English players abroad. The England team needs more foreign influence. English players need to take more responsibility. I'm really watching Eric Dier closely to put my theory to the test. Wisdom could be developing a lot better during a year abroad.
that's true, and he is good enough to be playing for a europa team as well in my opinion, maybe not one of the top teams, but half of them in it have to better option than where they end up in this country, must be surely, also vital European experience.
The principle of what Dyke is saying about non EU players is right. They should only be given visas if they're going to be key parts of the first teams of PL clubs and not as it has now become, squad fillers and fringe players. However, they'll circumvent it, as by the time he manages to clamp down on the entrance criteria, clubs will simply have found a way around it. For example, find a promising young African or South American player, bung his 3rd party agent. Get them to find him a club in a European country where they hand out passports like sweets and a year so later, bingo, he's an 'EU' signing.
