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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by TheSecondStain, Jul 15, 2014.

  1. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    The best way forward is more autonomy for the individual countries of the UK, including England, and continued union. It will be tragic if the UK breaks up after all these centuries...there is no place in the world for small countries...where do you stop? I understand Cornwall is seeking independence now. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
     
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  2. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    What we need is a bit of federation in the UK. Counties could be responsible for their own needs, instead of all the centralisation. Liberal Democrats/Liberal Party have been saying this for eons.
     
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  3. Jose Fonte baby

    Jose Fonte baby Well-Known Member

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    On the unelected governments point - England voted Conservative in 2005 but got a Labour government, and that PM was Scottish and his Scottish successor was unelected!
     
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  4. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    This has in part been happening. The government used to pay for most things centrally and councils dealt solely with local type stuff, then more and more things were shared out and that is when council taxes shot up. The trouble is that people will want money spent on local things, but also want the same as everyone else. Look how people moan when there is a postcode lottery with health care.
     
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  5. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    I admire Cameron for how much he cares about the UK staying together...after all England will have a permanent Conservative government without Scotland, so he is thinking beyond his own personal interest in this matter.
     
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  6. AberdeenSaint

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    It`s actually been very civilised - a couple of eggs thrown, and few signs defaced, that`s about it.
     
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  7. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    That'll teach me to read tabloids.
     
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  8. olddellboy

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    If Scotland vote yes, they will get rid of the nuclear deterrent. This means that England can then nuke them without fear of retaliation, grab the oil and reinstate feudalism and prima nocte. This might seem a tad severe, but works in my head. Plus its as realistic as Braveheart,
     
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  9. - Doing The Lambert Walk

    - Doing The Lambert Walk Well-Known Member

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    Latest polls seem to be suggesting...


    Yes - 45%
    No - 49%

    Undecided - 6%
     
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  10. breconsaint

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    What the "Yes" campaign need is the English to get a vote. They'd get their way then.
     
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    The Act of Union was between England and Scotland. We should have a say in breaking it.
     
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  12. - Doing The Lambert Walk

    - Doing The Lambert Walk Well-Known Member

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    Jonas Gutierrez has had his left testicle removed after being diagnosed with testicular cancer. All the best to him and his recovery.
     
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  13. AberdeenSaint

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    That`s why Cameron, Milliband, Clegg and Co have been Scotland this week in panic mode then.
    And the English who live in Scotland do get a vote, the majority of whom will vote No.
     
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    Only talking about him to my mate yesterday.
     
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  15. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    This is brilliant..!

    [video=youtube;Xbs6eMxa5ds]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbs6eMxa5ds[/video]
     
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  16. - Doing The Lambert Walk

    - Doing The Lambert Walk Well-Known Member

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    Made me laugh! <laugh>
     
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  17. AL.

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    "Unelected"? We don't elect a Prime Minister in this country - we don't have a presidential system.

    And for the record, I hope Scotland vote YES on Thursday. If I had the chance to rid myself of the Tories, and the right, I bloody well would. Labour need Scotland, but siding with the Tories and the Lib Dems will only do more damage.
     
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  18. Clem Fandango

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    Holy crap first I've heard about this. All the best, Jonas!
     
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  19. breconsaint

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    The Westminster elite may be in panic mode, but the average English punter seems largely indifferent. If anything, opinion polls asking English people about the question of Scottish independence received a definite "Yes" result.

    English people in Scotland and Scots in England, by their nature and situation, tend to be more pro-Union. I, for example would not want to be living in a foreign country in Wales.
     
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    My uncle and auntie will both be voting no. They believe Salmond is just out to get in the history books and doesn't really have a clear plan.
     
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