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OT: Do you think Scotland Independence is good for United kingdom?.

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by LuisDiazgamechanger, Sep 9, 2014.

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Good for Scottland to leave the Union?

Poll closed Sep 29, 2014.
  1. Yes

    10 vote(s)
    21.3%
  2. No

    37 vote(s)
    78.7%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. afcftw

    afcftw Well-Known Member

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    I'll have my union flag hanging out the window and god save the queen pumping out of my speakers!
     
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  2. BBFs Unpopular View

    BBFs Unpopular View Well-Known Member

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    Better get some snacks and beers as this looks like a yes vote. BBC should be some great entertainment should a yes vote win.
     
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  3. Foredeckdave

    Foredeckdave Music Thread Manager

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    That is a completely facile appraisal of the situation in my opinion. Plus your suggestion that "the overwhelming majority of these come from communities that are Yes/Nationalist" is way off the mark!
     
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  4. UnitedinRed

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    Aye. Was at a wedding for my scottish best pal a few weeks back. General feeling was they didn't want independence as they see no real benefit. Half of them live in glasgow and half in england. So they were worried about seeing each other as easily. One or two were being anti english but they were drunk morons (how i picture the yes voter tbh, rab c nesbit lookalikes).

    As one put it, get tae feck salmond.
     
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  5. afcftw

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    All of the polls so far suggest it looks like a NO vote. Why are you so sure it's going to be a yes?
     
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    I am note sure and gut feeling says no but aren't the yes 8 points ahead in the polls?
     
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  7. UnitedinRed

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  8. afcftw

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    Oooh I'll have to have a look at the most up to date ones and see if there's been a change!
     
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  9. Foredeckdave

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    The English couldn't care less - well that will change and quickly when the costs of what the YES camapign are demanding become clear. There's a simple sum to be defined here. Scotland wants to go -OK provided Scotland foots the WHOLE bill for doing so. It's as simple as that.
     
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  11. afcftw

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    Oh ok, a quick google search shows that one poll had them eight points ahead but all the others show NO as in the lead..

    Still pretty sure the ball is in the NO court at the moment
     
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    Would fit in with my gut feeling a no vote will win. the uncertainty is bound to sway people. Espeically those that are not doing too badly financially atm. Those living on the poverty line have nothing to lose by voting yes
     
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  13. Tobes

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    No.

    There were 4 polls released on Sunday and one had the Yes vote with an 8 point lead and another vice versa. The average across the 4 had the No's still just ahead.

    Too close to call at the minute, amongst those who have decided. It's the supposed 'undecideds' that hold the key to the result and it's intangible.
     
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  14. Germlands Nozzer

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    There are various polls with various results, commissioned by bothe sides and with varying samples. The BBC (your favourite source) seemed to be running with a poll of polls last I saw and mentioned that different polls have different results (some put no further ahead, some yes further ahead etc.).
     
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    ime the undecideds lean on the safer option mostly. Reckon the No will pick up the majority of undecideds to clinch it
     
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  16. Foredeckdave

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    In which poll - or is that yet another of your fantasies.

    I was listening to Stephan Shakespeare (CEO of YouGov) about the polling of this referendum. When pushed he had to admit that the polls were flawed in so far as they had no previous data upon which to test reliance and strength. It's not just a matter of confidence (in statistical terms). Hence the pollsters are not even attempting to make forecasts on their own predictions.
     
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  17. Page_Moss_Kopite

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    Tbf I think it was a little bit of the reason you mention and the reason I mentioned donga, it was known in the 50's that oil deposits and mineral deposits existed in Antarctica ( http://www.coolantarctica.com/Antarctica fact file/science/threats_mining_oil.htm ) the Argentine's invaded the islands giving thatcher the opportunity to boost her decreasing popularity, even if Haig's initial plan to get the two countries around the table there was no way thatcher was going to sign away the probable riches of Antarctica to the junta,
    In the end Haig was giving Downing Street satellite information of Argentina's military movements with one hand and shaking Galtieri's hand with the other.<laugh>
     
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  18. Tobes

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    That was my original feeling on it, but you never know
     
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  19. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    I very much doubt it. It'll be 'no'.
     
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  20. Red Hadron Collider

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    Those living on the poverty line probably won't bother voting anyway.
     
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