Plans now with city council and have been recommended for approval. Decision day is 23/9/14, if it goes through work will start January 2015. Plan of new stand below
Lets hope we finally catch up to the 90s. Moores ****ed us and hicks and gillet then sodomised us on the stadium business.
Something's better than nothing, I suppose. Have a feeling that by time we sit in a 55k stadium the rest of the top 8 bar Evetron will be in anything less than a 60k stadium. We should be in such a stadium by now ourselves. And a shared stadium on the banks of the Mersey itself.
Yep, future generations will look back on the missed opportunity that has been spurned on this issue agog imo
Agree, mate. By the time we've paid for this one, we'll need to increase the size yet again to stay competitive with the top 4-6+ PL teams. And to think, soon Tottenham Hotspurs will be in a comparable sized stadium and West Ham will be in a bigger one!
Well we increased the capacity by 11k by increasing two stands. If we expand the other End by say 5k more and leave the KOP alone, Anfield could be 60k capacity. I dont think we can expand the KOP
Mirror saying OVER 60k http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/liverpool-given-green-light-council-4264497 Mind you, this is the paper that tried longer than any others to say that Suarez went for £64m.
Well Emirates capacity is 60k, with no possibility of making it bigger. But then again we will need 90k seats to match matchday revenue with Arsenal due to they extortionate prices.
Yup, Arsenal have the London factor so can charge more. City & United is a better comparion given the locations.
Short answer: no. We should have a stadium to rival the biggest teams in Europe. Real Madrid = CL winners 10 times = The Bernabeu (Capacity = 81, 044) A.C. Milan = CL winners 7 times = The San Siro (Capacity = 80, 018) Bayern Munich = CL winners 5 times = The Allianz Arena (Capacity = 75, 024, bit less than OT!) Liverpool = CL winners 5 times = Anfield (Capacity = 45, 276) Barcelona = CL winners 4 times = The Neu Camp (Capacity = 99, 365) Ajax = CL winners 4 times = Amsterdam ArenA (Capacity = 53, 052) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_association_football_stadiums_by_capacity Ludicrous how we've let ourselves lag behind Europe's elite with regard to our stadium. Our stadium should be a minimum of 70,000 with options to expand the capacity by at least another 10,000.
Do you guys think the KOP can be made bigger? Perhaps make it wider? .... Making the distance between either side of the KOP longer? Make it 2 tier? (just joking lol)
Not sure about Ajax stadium, but we cant compare our stadium to theres, because LFC stadium is just 4 stands made individually, while those stadiums have no gaps in the corners.
Raise the ****ing ****hole to the ground and start again. Seriously. If we want to compete it's the only way forward. **** off with your sentimentality and 'oh, but the Kop's irreplaceable' bollocks. Rebuild. Build big. And make it state of the art and **** off massive.
Didn't Man United have gaps at OT and then just filled them in with seating? Or am I just making that up? One way of doing it, certainly. Not sure Anfield warrants the appellation '****hole', BTW. I think a newly built stadium is almost inevitable, TBH. Be it a shared stadium, or one of our own, I feel it'll happen in the next 10 years or so.
We are planning on making wembley look small. So 55k will still be on the small side. City expanding is hilarious though. You should have a stadium much bigger than those nobodies.
There is really no need to share a stadium with another club. If you look across industry and commerce worldwide you will find that Joint Ventures are rarely more than short term vehicles that ultimately fail to satisfy either party. Whilst I accept John Henry's logic on the decision to refurbish rather than re-build, I think that this too will be quickly overtaken by both events and technology. Why do we need bigger and bigger stadiums? The vast majority of the worldwide audience for Liverpool games never come to the stadium. Sooner or later clubs will break free of UEFA and Premiership rules as to how they sell their intelectual rights and to whom. Once that happens and it will the only need for a stadium is to project atmosphere - something that is quickly lost in the majority of big stadiums.
Don't agree there Dave. People will always want the matchday experience and TV will never replace it. Whilst there's a demand for seats that the current facility can't deliver, then you're losing potential revenue every home game. Arsenal more than doubled their matchday revenues when they moved the Emirates and £90m per annum is not to be sniffed at. However there's a balance between cost and return. Your Yanks have gone for the cheaper solution i.e. the £150m 13K expansion, as opposed to the grandiose H&G plans.
Interesting that you should pick Arsenal as an example. It's not really surprising is it to double matchday revenues when you increase from 38,000 to 60,000 and nearly double ticket prices! But look again at the trend of matchday revenue as a percentage of total revenue. Now consider at what cost does football become too expensive for the average punter. My gut tells me that the Premiership sides are getting close to that unknown figure already. So let United increase OT to 100,000 if they want, my contention is that very soon it will become a white elephant. For the worldwide viewing audience they want to see and hear a crowd. In the Premiership perhaps the best atmospheres are at Palace and Stoke - neither have mega stadiums! Transmit that in a way more profitable than the present media arrangements and you have a far bigger potential.
