The outright refusal is because it'd be a ****e decision of the rest of the Union, fraught with risk for little or no gain. They've gone hard with it, as Salmond has previously made the assumption that it'd all be grand and they'd be able to stick with the pound.
He basically wants independence while england holds his hand and covers his arse. A bit like we do now.
BBC photo of yes rally in Glasgow please log in to view this image Yes campaigner's photo of same rally. please log in to view this image Yeah, no BBC bias..
Really I destroyed your s**te about the currency union so you are taljking about Lizard people, classic. Well I provided Carney's words which destroyed your bollocks. After the stuff from you on that Gaa thread, I have 0 respect for you and any knowledge you htink you have. let alone your constant conspiracy theories about the BBC and Liverpool and the Fa and United that so endeared you to the United board.
Sharing the £ with Scotland would be very bad for UK a very bad decision... and would mean they (Scotland) couldn't join EU.
yeah but it's Scottish independence and their choice, it's f** all to do with you down south. If it was wales you wouldnt give a bollocks
If the vote is "Yes" on Thursday, the British pound is going to crash (at least temporarily),If the vote is "No" the British pound is going to appreciate and good for people travelling on holidays overseas but not good for exporters.
You and donga bang on with that s**t because you got nothing else lads, you'll also allign yourself with anyone that backs your garbage, as would Donga. 0 respect for that guy after the gaza thread, I expect your ignorance but I expected better from him/. You really are ignorant to hte way the world works and unless the BBC or guardian tells you something, it must not be true
Apart from a bit of honesty from people like Tobes which contrasts the self induced delusion of people like Donga it's pretty clear on here and in England that people want a no vote because of identity and possible problems for England. Yet the whole no campaign and much stuff on here is a pretence of giving a monkeys how this will affect scotland and Scots, giving the worst possible outcomes as a certainty to back the other two reasons for wanting a no vote. Really funny reading people lie to themselves on here over this subject. It clearly typifies the status of Scoland in the Union with regards to it's status in the union and being subservient to Downing Street. None of you give a crap, other than how it will affect you, stop pretending to even know or care how an independent Scotand would move forward. This is entirely the English stance on it in terms of business and politics and even society. In this context Scotland is infinitely better off determining their own future instead of remaining in a Union where they will be the crusty neighbour, especially after what Thatcher did to Scotland, and Wales, f** that. Go Scots Vote Yes. A yes vote will avoid them being dragged into this war you are about to be thrown into anyway. Yey, more dead yong British men for banker profits and to save the petrodollar and provoke Iran who has a mutual defence agreement with Syria Nothing else to say really except enjoy your diminishing empire. Nothern Ireland to call for indepence next?
Bit rich saying we're all biased- you too would have to be biased on this given your nation of origin and your views on Northern Ireland. Personally, I hope Scotland stays because that is what is best for the UK. I think Scotland leaving will hurt the UK as a whole. And yes, it will almost certainly hurt Scotland the most. It will hurt England/Wales some and hurt Scotland a lot. The bit I care about most though is England- I won't pretend otherwise. However, I do fully believe this will be a bad move for Scotland. Short term will hurt a lot- long term will hurt a little. I think Scotland could be an independent nation, same as Ireland is. I think they're better off with us (and quite frankly, Ireland would have been better staying with us long term- but that's not really part of the discussion). Larger nations tend to prosper more. Think best scenario would be a devolved UK.
I'll just repost this, all your currency garbage is gabage, it is not a block to the deal, as Tobes quite rightly said, there is 0 political will.
What? !!! Er, I simply don't know where to go from here. D'you know Sis, you sometimes remind me of that knight in The Holy Grail who gets his arms and legs chopped off and is still saying it's a flesh wound and he's eager to fight on. You really do embarrass yourself - or at least you would if you had one iota reality about you. There'll be no currency union (not unless Scotland uses its oil as collateral, or it's whisky or its future pensions contingency - all of which will make Salmond's Sugar Candy Mountain that further away), therefore a key plank of the Nat's strategy is ****ed. How on earth you believe you've said anything to the contrary to disprove that fact (what? What, for Christ's sake?) is just flabbergasting. By all means continue the rest of your Braveheart argument, some, if I were a Scot, I wouldn't actually rule out. Well not until I saw Murduch, anyway (you're strangely mute on that last bit for a seasoned anti-establishment crank). But the economic argument, at least re the currency and sovereignty over economic policy, is falling to bits. I would say that you know that too, but somehow I think you may not.
I haven't 'pretended' to care or not care - my comments on here have mostly been questions because I don't think the Scots have thought this through well enough. A lot of the comments on here have been tongue in cheek like me saying if the vote goes no, do England, NI and Wales get to vote if we want them to stay. Do you think that you sometimes take things seriously that are meant as a bit of a joke?
Think you've just proven how much of your argument is based on what's best for the people of Scotland (no, we aren't all Scots), and how much is based on hoping something bad happens to the UK. After all, if you really cared about what was best for the people of Scotland, you would recognise that the best thing for an independent country is to have an independent currency that it controls. 90% of the countries in the world have one already, and pretty much all of the smaller countries that do have tended to do better than those without.
Am I and a Scot not British? How do you know 'we' dont care about what will be a massive event for the whole kingdom? I dont really get why you have any input, other than as an observer who will be unaffected entirely.
Scotland having £ would be bad for UK- because that would be a country 10% the size of ours trying to control a currency that might go against our wishes. We'd be fighting over the direction of the £. Bad for Scotland and the UK. Some countries use the US$ or the Australia$- but those countries are usually really small and insignificant. Too small to hold their own currency stable- so worth giving up that control. They're also not a threat to the US or Australia because they're too small to have any impact on the currency. Scotland are big enough they could cause problems for our designs on the £, we must do all we can to prevent them being on the £. Threaten to block their inclusion into the EU unless they adopt the Euro (or their own currency).
Everyone's allowed an input, the problem starts when some think theirs is more valid than others [which applies on every thread on here] and I've got nobody in mind in saying this.
I dont think the irish have any input at all on this. An opinion yes but only from afar. Its obviously about scotland but it effects the uk.
