by sis do you men me? Been well aware of TTIP for a good long while me lad, years in fact, it was not always called TTIP either. Selling the world out to international corporations. The bottom line of this agreement is that when your government makes decisions that corporations don't like, the corps can take your government to a secret court and sue the bollocks out of them. Uruguay got sued for putting warnings on cigarette packets. Argentina got sued for freezing energy prices for a hard pressed public and were sued for over 900m Not only that, even when your government offers a service, these cororations will be able to sue your government for not opening up those services for competition and the corps can then possibly sue the government for the money the corp might have made from profits. Then thre are the decisions being made about your country without your country having a say, pretty much like the EU for the smaller nations. Scotland would have 0 say in the EU so best they did not join if they vote yes. The Eu is destroying economies with austerity and multinational corps are cleaning up. TTIP opens up a much bigger trove of victims for multinational corps, this is corporate bucks at work in politics and don't you know, economic "hits" on nations will become the norm rather than the exception. TTIP has been discussed and planned and now is being agreed all in secret. Since when has anything done that way been good for joe blogs. TTIP hands the sovereignty of all signed up nation to the corporations. because I didn't create a thread doesn't mean I wasn't aware, had I started a thread on that, I would have just got the usual "conspiracy theory claims thrown at me" but if the Guardian tells you it must be legit right? And people think they are not conditioned to dismiss info unless it comes from a source they deem acceptable regardless of the actual info it's self TTIP has been worked on for a couple of years now, not just this week since the Guardian informed you of something you should have been aware of for at least over a year. That's the problem with waiting for the media to tell you something or give you your opinion on something. In the US a municipality set up their own fiber network, another tried to do the same, now in legal battle with AT&T because AT&T wants that business, so you see, the public cannot make decisions that impinge on corporate profits and the legal system allows corps to challenge anything the public may do that could posibly generate profits for a corporation, this will be rolled out internationally with the TTIP and US corps could sue say Rotheram if they tried to set up their own publicly owned fiber network because that corp could possibly make profits and it sues because the opportunity was not opened up to them. only one answer to this and that's.. http://www.weapons-universe.com/ninja-weapons.htm People might rightly wonder why government would sell out their nations in such an agreement but when you look at even your own PM, 4th generation Cameron HSBC man, check it out, it is not a surprise. Secondly the NSA have been spying for years and years, on politicians. NSA no secret provides corporations with data, corps being their primary "customer" when really they own the f**ing government and therefor the NSA, this "intel" has been used to blackmail politicians, that's why you see them making what sometimes appear to be crazy decisions. This is true for the US, politicains have been blackmailed by the CIA and NSA for decades, can't buy them blackmail them. please log in to view this image But this is all conspiracy theory right? Afraid not.
Franky Boyle on independence [video=youtube;TV9rZAchZg4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=TV9rZAchZg4[/video]
Franky is no fan of Salmond "Salmond's won't live that long. My Hamster has bought a suit for Salmond's funeral"
frankie boyle commenting on Scottish independence.... i felt it was bland by his standards though.....
That's an awful lot of words to avoid admitting that salmond and Sturgeon are for it, despite the utter guff they're trilling about saving Scotland's NHS, and now being in Murdoch's pocket.
soooo..... what kind of border crossing do you lads want. hadrian's wall or game of thrones type wall? should we build a fence like in the US/mexico border... or SHUDDER (no don't please.... ah f it) like the west bank.... should the main roads have a booth where you have to pay duty when bringing tennents and whisky back to england? should berwick be told to f off with them?
just stick a sticker of a thistle on the cover. they are all going to be illgeal immigrants the minute they leave cos european union won't have them so we'll have to deport all scots in england. it'll only affect everton of course cos only naismith would be deported from the prem they have gone that bad at football.
Will Fergie have to give his knighthood back? And if so will the Labour Party have to refund the £50,000 it cost the old twat to buy it?
I don't know if it's already been asked or if I'm being naïve but 1. why did we allow Scotland to go for independence and 2. seeing as we did, why doesn't the whole UK get a vote? Will Wales be next ....
I don't think we really had any option after they voted a party into power who have independence at the core of their policies. So I accept that the referndum should be limited to those who actually live in Scotland. However, the rest of the citizens of the UK should demand that they are given a referendum on the terms that are negotiated for that seperation - after all no UK political party has a mandate to negotiate the terms.
Always wanted to tow Ireland into the middle of the Atlantic and sink it. Don't mind if we practice first on Wales.
If the Yes vote prevailed the 2015 General election would become the battleground for that discussion, as the seperation would take 18 months plus.
2015 will be interesting. First of all legislation would have to be passed that withdraw the franchise for all those who cast a vote in the Scottish Referndum as they would be in a transitional state and not long term UK citizens (at least not for the full 5 year term of a UK parliament). Both legally and morally the Scottish electorate would have to sit on their hands and wait for the outcome of UK deliberations.
