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OT: Do you think Scotland Independence is good for United kingdom?.

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Good for Scottland to leave the Union?

Poll closed Sep 29, 2014.
  1. Yes

    10 vote(s)
    21.3%
  2. No

    37 vote(s)
    78.7%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. UnitedinRed

    UnitedinRed Well-Known Member

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    Thats fantastic to hear. Is he telling brits that they shouldnt have a say on british issues while irish expats woth a grudge and lizard phobia should?
     
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  2. BBFs Unpopular View

    BBFs Unpopular View Well-Known Member

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    I dont doubt there are many scots that want to remain part of the UK, I also believe there are plenty of lies and bullying by both sides of this.

    I am just thinking of the possibilities because the future of the uk is another housing bubble, record bank profits and deepening austerity, and possibly war, more taxes more inflation more debt. pretty much the same fate as Ireland is trapped into the EU. At least an independent Scotland can ban Fracking, Cameron is selling you lot out to the frackers
     
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  3. Foredeckdave

    Foredeckdave Music Thread Manager

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    Don't try playing the innocent "what's with the attitude?". If you'd been engaged in this debate you'd know that all 3 UK party leaders plus the BoE have said a definitive NO to a currency union. Now what part of the word no Salmond doesn't understand only he can say - but whatever he thinks it ain't going to happen. BTW Scotland is not the UK's 2nd largest trading partner - until such times as Scotland leaves the UK it is part of the UK and not a trading partner. If you are going to debate then get your facts right.
     
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  4. UnitedinRed

    UnitedinRed Well-Known Member

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    I guess youre the little man then. Poor you.
     
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  5. Page_Moss_Kopite

    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    Bbf commenting on Scotland's big vote is no different from your good self commenting on LFC matters which have jack to do with you tbf.
     
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  6. Foredeckdave

    Foredeckdave Music Thread Manager

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    What are you on about? UIR is right on this one. Sisu is an outsider on this one - as is every other citizen of the Republic.
     
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  7. UnitedinRed

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    English football club amd a direct rival of the club o support.

    Little different tbf page.
     
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  8. BBFs Unpopular View

    BBFs Unpopular View Well-Known Member

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    I just called it like it is man that's all. You seem to be getting a little obsessed, all of this has nowt to do with Scotland's independence
     
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    BBFs Unpopular View Well-Known Member

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    I believe the fact it was posted on a forum I am a member of allows me to contribute.

    You have a really weird way of seeing s**t lad.

    " OT: Do you think Scotland Independence is good for United kingdom?."

    An open question, doesn't mention that only UK residents may comment.
     
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  10. Page_Moss_Kopite

    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    Funny thing is you and UIR don't are not Scottish and won't be voting.<laugh>
     
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  11. Foredeckdave

    Foredeckdave Music Thread Manager

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    No, but UIR and I (or is it me?) will both have a vote in the UK elections in 2015 in which all of the major parties will seek a mandate from the UK electorate to agree (or disagree) the terms of separation should Scotland be silly enough to vote YES. Neither the Citizens of the Republic or Finland will have that opportunity.
     
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  12. afcftw

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    All of the main UK political parties and the BoE have all said categorically that there will not be a currency union. On top of this the previous EU Commissioner for Finance and the Euro has said Scotland wouldn't be able to have a currency union and join the eu.
     
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  13. Thus Spake Zarathustra

    Thus Spake Zarathustra GC Thread Terminator

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    Do you think Murdoch will let his new puppet Salmond allow or ban fracking, or are there no internet conspiracy theories on that subject yet?
     
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  14. BBFs Unpopular View

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    Scotland joining the EU I know first hand of would be a bad decision. Espeically when it has now transpired that small nations do not get to vote on some things. Iceland told the EU to f** off. They are doing great as a result. Had Iceland bowed to pressure bailed out banks and accepted EU driven austerity then they would not have their current what is it 2% and falling unemployment rate, given Iceland is what it is and not "benefitting from EU membership, and the many nations that are benefitting. then how does it make sense that EU membership is vital to economic viability. It is a false argument to suggest that EU membership is required for EU prosperity.

    true it can't be denied that they have said there will be no currency deal. The reality after independence if a yes vote wins will be quite different.

    Of course they are saying no deal, they categorically do not want Scotland to vote yes. Are you suggesting this has nothing whatsoever to do with their stance? I mean we can't know but logically it makes perfect sense, it also makes sense to not economically damage your own nation further by a policy of hamerping trade with your second largest trade partner does it not.

    I think that stance now would change if the yes vote wins. But that's just an uneducated guess on my part.

    Funny though, no one really gives a s**t about Scotland or the Scots, that's not the motivation behind the no support in England.
     
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  15. UnitedinRed

    UnitedinRed Well-Known Member

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    Simply not true. Many of us have scottish friends amd family. Just two weeks ago i was best man at my scottisg friends wedding. A great blend of Scottish and english traditions. As best man i was forced to wear a kilt. I dont remember any violence, hatred or problems of any kind. It was quite the opposite.

    I wonder how the split would effect children like their little lad.
     
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  16. Garlic Klopp

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    They would have dual nationality.

    I have a mate whose Dad came over from New Zealand (he was a navigator on Lancasters in WW2). He married a scouse girl and never went back to NZ. My mate has dual British and NZ nationality, I assume this means he could go and live their if he wanted, he chose to live in Italy for some reason.
     
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  17. UnitedinRed

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    Would he? Is that how it works when countries go independent?

    You know something. If, and its a big if, scotland vote to leave the union, it wont be long until they vote to rejoin. Very few are actually aware of what will happen.
     
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  18. DirtyFrank

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    Indeed, it may be irrational or illogical but why on earth after telling the rest of the UK to bugger off...(and that has been the tone of the yes campaign), would the RUK then give the Scots everything on their wish list in post indy negotiations.

    The RUK electorate will not tolerate any agreement that benefits Scotland at their expense after being told loudly they are **** and Scotland is better off without them.

    The self serving Westminster club will certainly not be in a giving mood after being used as one of the excuses for the Scots running away. They'll compete on taking the hardest line just before elections....that will have to happen once independence happens

    But it isn't going to happen. As I joked earlier....when the shops tell them everything is going to be more expensive their bold political stance softens quickly., they'll not admit it out loud for fear of some yes campaign thugs spitting and screaming traitor in their face but they tick no quickly enough.
     
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  19. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    the romance of going it alone has clouded a lot of the younger jocks head. they had better look at what this all means for them like the majority of the older generation because if the yes vote wins then there is no going back...
     
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  20. Thus Spake Zarathustra

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