I read that article. Deutsche are very thorough in their research normally. I didn't post it because I'd only be accused of spreading more establishment "lies"
So there is absolutely no chance of Scotland suceeding against the apprent odds? Is that really your view? Scotland is awash with talented people from every sector, skills that will be required to negotiate and rebuild Scotland will not be in short supply. We love adversity, we love being the underdog because we are a bloody minded people who thrive on proving people wrong. If you knew as many Scots from all walks and all parts of the country you'd know never to write us off. Have some faith in your fellow Brits, because that's what we'll be if we vote Yes, you may still not like us very much but you'll have to get on with us so we may as well part on friendly terms, not some bitter angry divorce.
DevAdvocate You are not reading what I said. I did not say I should have a vote. I said that I was interested and entitled to have an OPINION or is that not allowed by your rules.
This is what the YES campaign want, friends with benefits rather than marriage. It's like a girl breaking up with you but then still calling you once a week when they fancy a shag. Any self respecting bloke would say NO. Independence means INDEPENDENCE.
If you do succeed, I will be the first to put my hands up and say I was wrong. However, I don't believe you will. There are to many intangibles - too many wildly optimistic projections of oil capacity, prices, etc.
THis is the one bank in Germany that advised against introducing the Minimum wage they where wrong and they were ignored. Bankers opinions! I am amazed anybody takes any notice of these guys at all after their recent performances. William Hill would be more likely to have the info.
Poor anolgy Scotland is already getting shafted and is not enjoying it. BUT we are England's biggest customer and therefore capitol will respect that. PROFITS!
Spurf The post was not aimed at you but addressed to you as you seemed to be the most reasoned and calculated of the YES supporters on this thread. The selected facts and lies of omission mostly centre around currency and gas/oils revenues and reserves. This is from both sides not just YES. Nobody can say with any certainty how much gas/ oil is available around the waters of the Atlantic let alone how much of it is 'Scottish'. Should common sense prevail and fossil fuel consumption drastically reduce in the next 20 years it will not be worth extraction anyway as existing fields will be able to cope and the price of oil will reduce affecting revenues. The currency question is also vexing. Both sides quote bankers and EU officials to support their case. I think that the NO camp think that it irrelevant because it will still be UK after Thursday and the YES camp think they will still be able to use the pound. Neither side seem to have come up with any projections for the scenario where yes wins and joins the EU and the rest of the UK votes to leave as seems possible given the ridiculous rise of the extreme right in England. Let me know if you have any information on that please Spurf because I've not seen it. On a lighter note strange how the Bank of England was founded by a Scot and the Bank of Scotland by an Englishman. By the way you lied about marmalade. The Greeks and Romans used it. After Thursday we can all get back on the same side as Spurs thrash WBA and march on to the CL.
Deutsche's economic analysis is usually spot on, or thereabouts. They deal in hard figures, not wildly optimistic projections. This is not some cautionary, "be careful, in case" notice. It's a stark, blunt warning of the economic consequences for a newly independent Scotland. William Hill deal in the odds of something happening, or not happening. Whether they would offer you a price on likely economic catastrophe, I've no idea!
I coming round to the idea that Scottish independence is a good idea. One opinion poll predicting a yes vote and Stirling bombed against the dollar. As I get paid in $US it gave me nearly £6k a year pay rise. If they actually vote for independence I will pay off my mortgage mush sooner. Come on you Jocks!
Where did I say that to you? I never said we can rely on England, that would be the point in the divorce which led us to break, up if we do. I don't want any favours, the fact remains we will still be British, that's all I said. That's fair enough.
It's been a good debate on here, never thought we would reach over 1,100 posts. What does everyone think the result will be? Although I'm voting yes I think it will be a narrow defeat for us (although in a way, that's still a victory).
I would agree that I think it will be close. What has become clear through all this, is that there are many Scots who are dissatisfied with the way things are - that would most certainly have to be addressed if the outcome is No vote. I can't believe that it is purely a 300yr old grudge that is behind this apparent unhappiness. So, I have to think that it's deeper than that. If the majority of Yes voters are doing so because of injustice, or perceived injustice from Westminster, then there is clearly a major problem. Having said all this, if many Yes voters are doing so purely on this perceived economic land of plenty that's being mooted, I fear that they will find that the reality will be a nasty wake-up call!
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