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OT: Do you think Scotland Independence is good for United kingdom?.

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by LuisDiazgamechanger, Sep 9, 2014.

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Good for Scottland to leave the Union?

Poll closed Sep 29, 2014.
  1. Yes

    10 vote(s)
    21.3%
  2. No

    37 vote(s)
    78.7%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Tobes

    Tobes Warden
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    Explain exactly how Scotland will fiscally better off as an independent country then - show your workings out.

    Thanks
     
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  2. Foredeckdave

    Foredeckdave Music Thread Manager

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    Have to agree with Tobes again! - Sisu, "That is pure ****e". The whole YES campaign is predicated upon smoke and mirrors and a plea to sentimentality. Your sad envy of anything British shines brightly from underneath your nighty!
     
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  3. saintanton

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    I don't even understand what you are trying to say here?
    The Act of Union was in 1707- what "oilfields" are you on about? As I said earlier, Scotland voluntarily entered into an agreement which saw the two countries unite- they had already shared the same monarch for over a hundred years.
    There was no "sly" re-drawing of borders, as you put it, it was a union, not a colonisation, and one that Scotland benefited from enormously.
    And Scotland was never unified with "Britain" it always has been part of Britain, it was the UK that was created.

    As for the statement that small nations are wealthy, that's a ridiculous generalisation.
     
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  4. theevilreddevil

    theevilreddevil Well-Known Member

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    Looks like the reality of it all is starting to hit the scot's, Salmond accusing everyone of bullying and scaremongering when they don't agree with what he says... Looks like the NO vote is getting stronger now day by day
     
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  5. theevilreddevil

    theevilreddevil Well-Known Member

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    Funny how he always says Team Scotland vs London or Westminster lol
     
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  6. afcftw

    afcftw Well-Known Member

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    Meant to like not dislike this!

    Edit: was gonna rep to make up for it but I have to share the love apparently!
     
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  7. Thus Spake Zarathustra

    Thus Spake Zarathustra GC Thread Terminator

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    The borders were not 'redrawn'. Evidently the Scots just wanted them to go in horizontal lines fro their border, as in the lines of latitude, but, according to maritime law, they don't work like that at all, and henceforth there are several NS gas and oil fields that would be under British (rest of britain anyway) control.

    Look, i said early on in this thread that if i were scots I'd vote for independence and i stick by that. I personally will be devestated to see them go for a multiple of reasons, not least that I'm 3/8 Scots and feel far, far more affinity to Scotland than the Home Counties. That said, i have to laugh when i hear of any on the yes side talking of 'bullying'. FFS, practically every vox pop I've seen from scotland has had the No campaigners heckled and barracked as soon as they opened their mouths (which includes your ****ing hero Galloway, btw Sis). And if you look at any social media, it appears the Yes campaign is focussed upon trolling any opponents into commiting suicide, and explaining any faults of the yes campaign as being MI5 plots (you're not consulting for them are you, Sis?).

    Whatever happens now I'd move from scotland in the aftermath, never mind JK Rowling.
     
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  8. DirtyFrank

    DirtyFrank Well-Known Member

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    It's very funny.

    Cameron and gang "we love you stay with us!"

    Scots "no, **** off, Salmond says we will be rich and Nelson Mandela will be our President and we will replace the nukes with the Avengers. WE VOTE YES!"

    Asda: "if you go independent your cans of Tennents Super will be more expensive"

    Scots: " **** that we vote NO!"
     
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  9. Justovertheline

    Justovertheline Well-Known Member

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    Short term they would be ok probably but what happens when the oil runs out they will be knocking on the door asking to be let back In....
     
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  10. Page_Moss_Kopite

    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    The Scotch Whisky export trade alone will keep their economy afloat and them extremely drunk when the oil revenue runs out.
     
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  11. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    The oil revenue won't run out within ten years so my honest view is if they negotiate and organised exit and get a currency going then I think ten years and it'd be well able

    However I think they'll vote no and I hope everyone gets more regional power
     
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  12. Thus Spake Zarathustra

    Thus Spake Zarathustra GC Thread Terminator

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  13. Milk not bear jizz

    Milk not bear jizz Grasser-In-Chief

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    No they're not. Only tax havens and Oil rich countries are. Scotland is neither. They have some oil- but aren't oil rich. Most small countries are poor and destitute around the world.

    I doubt Scotland would be poor... I'm sure they could manage on their own- but they'd be better off in a larger market with more negotiating power and common standards/laws. Industry thrives on standards.
     
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  14. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    All Scotland need do is declare 24 hour cheap drinking and the tourists will flood in!

    I'm sorry but to think they will implode upon voting yes is just wrong

    Simple as.
     
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  15. BBFs Unpopular View

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    BBC is too much
    This is their report on Sallmond in the news when questioned by Nick Robinson.
    [video=youtube;enrdDaf3uss]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=enrdDaf3uss[/video]

    This is what actually happened when he was questioned by Robinson, Robinson got owned.
    [video=youtube;rHmLb-RIbrM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rHmLb-RIbrM[/video]
     
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  16. UnitedinRed

    UnitedinRed Well-Known Member

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    Sisu ffs. Stick to gaza pal. This is a british issue. No iceish allowed.
     
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  17. BBFs Unpopular View

    BBFs Unpopular View Well-Known Member

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    ****** it's a scottish issue <laugh> You really are an idiot with a stupid faded empire outlook, it is a vote by Scotland for Scottish independence and has nothing to do with you<doh> You have no say, your opinion means nothing unless you are Scottish and are going to vote, but your knobtarded head can't work around that.

    An English dude telling me to stay out of a Scottish issue because it is none of my business <laugh> Could you be any more f**ing idiotic?

    BBC outright supporting a No vote, when the BBC has no right to be trying to sway any vote yes or no.
    Anything the Empire wants is NOT good for Scotland, that's a certainty. If banks and politicians in the Uk are saying no, then yes is in all likelihood what is best for Scots.

    As for Gaza, are you irked because I absolutely annihilated your stupid arguments, is that why you bring that up?

    As for this YES Scot, f**ing epic<laugh>
    [video=youtube;DiMXuEmqAHA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DiMXuEmqAHA[/video]
     
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  18. UnitedinRed

    UnitedinRed Well-Known Member

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    No its a british issue. As it is, scotland is apart of the united kingdom. What about the thousands of scots in england?
     
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  19. UnitedinRed

    UnitedinRed Well-Known Member

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    As for annihilating anything. Yoy were chewed up and spat out as the crack pot you really are.

    An anti english, anti israeli ****tard who by all accounts supports terrorism.
     
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  20. BBFs Unpopular View

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    Yep, pretty much par for the UIR course, don't have any legitimate argument or decent points of debate so just start throwing insults.

    You, a manc, come on to the LFC board and tell me to mind my own business about the indepence of another country you dont live in.

    <ok>

    You are in denial, just accept you don't have the cognitive abilities to discuss such serious topics mate. What's tragic about you UIR is that you just don't even barely read posts, you just wait for your turn to speak your uneducated opinions on everything.


    According to your own government on this question several decades ago, cabinet office document circa 1975, Scotland will be entitled to their share of the oil on the shelf and their currency will rise above the sterling in exchange rate which will bring in foreign investment got the Scottish pound. Such things are ignored by BBC of course.

    Scotland's tourism could seriously be ramped up, I would even legalise cannabis also to further boost tourism tbh. Doing that would generate billions for Scotland.

    The possibilities are pretty much endless and it all depends on how the country is run after independence and onwards, not on a set of static situations that may exist as being purported by the UK gov and No camp. Always giving the worst possible outlook as the only outlook if Yes wins.

    One things is certain, 4th generation banker man Cameron and co are not saying vote no for the benefit of Scotland and Scots, that is a fact.
     
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