Intresting article on the name change first national paper i have seen not knocking it. Newsparhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2754874/PATRICK-COLLINS-No-one-today-dream-calling-club-Hotspur-North-End-Hove-Albion-risk-club-sake.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490
Shouldn't take long for his journalistic credentials to be called into question. Here's a clickable link: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=149 0
He also says we could be called worse and then says ask the fans of Widnes and Wakefield. Which is really the point, nobody asked the fans of Hull City what is worse Hull Tigers or Hull City in a proper ballot. The article does mention how Hull City fans saved the club from extinction because he was at one of the meetings. He gives Assem Allam the right to change the name because he bought the club for a pound and lent it millions but he gives those supporters no right to have their say. Without their sacrifice we would have had no club for Assem Allam to buy. Finally the article shows a fear of change. He has said he will sell, well the new owner may be far better than the current one. He may have more money to put into the club and get us to the next level. If he or she does they will become our best owner yet.
Have to say I'm really surprised Pat Collins has written this. He's an excellent old school journalist and i thought he'd be completely against the Allams stance. Strange. "Their struggle was for simple survival, and I wonder what they would have made of a situation which sees Hull’s future as a football club put at stake for a tenuous point of principle. Because that is how the dispute appears to the outside world. It must be said that, as a breed, football fans tend to be systematically exploited, which is why some of us instinctively take their side in most of their disputes with club owners. But, occasionally, their passion seems misdirected and their cause misconceived. And this, I suspect, is such an occasion. For all the petitions and protests, the shrill campaigns and the earnest invocations of ‘the historic identity of Hull City AFC’, a name is just a name, nothing more."
Maybe he has been 'encouraged' to write it? Allegedly, it's not difficult for the integrity of someone to be undermined by a potential windfall? All hypothetical of course.
I dont doubt that goes on but I really cant see him doing that in this instance. Anti premier league and all the money stuff.
My suspicion is that they're trying to play devils advocate to 'generate' news and responses. It's pretty much seen universally as ridiculous idea, but an interesting story was becoming dead in the water because Allam argues his case so poorly.
I'm not going to labour the point but this isnt an Adrian Durham, doing it for publicity, he just isnt that sort of journalist.
I actually am reminded of the my first thoughts on this and the stance that I adopted. I still view Hull City Tigers as a viable alternative, I know the heritage argument and accept it, but the truth is that changing the name does attract investment, from Assem Allam. It may not be attractive to Asia, it may not be attractive to sponsors, but it is attractive to Assem and maybe that is all that is important at this time. I would not attend matches at the KC if the name changed to Hull Tigers, but would as long as the name was Hull City something, anything. What Pat Collins is saying is that when compared to the struggles of the past, changing the name is not something to be worried about. He may be right, but he has slightly missed the point. If when the padlock was put on BP, someone had said "I will save you from all of this but the name of the club needs to be changed" he would have still have the same battle. For me, the whole thing has changed this season, the statements from the club and Assem Allam have become a joke and it is totally clear that Assem Allam has lost the plot. Maybe compromise could be a way forward. As an experiment a licence to call the club Hull City Tigers for two seasons could be granted. The records would show the full name but, the playing name would change for the period. If at the end of the license period the club can prove the benefits.it could re apply.
What does 2 **** team name ideas have to do with a chant? Hull Tigers and Hull City Tigers are cringey, tacky names. As I said.
Some say we're mad, some say we're insane, but we're only perverted and pissed out of our brains, and it's Hull City, Hull City FC We're by far the greatest team, the world has ever seen. CITY ULL, CITY ULL, CITY 'ULL. If you're meaning Hull City AFC, our official name is effectively both.
Aftter writing this:- "The details are relatively well-known;" Why did he get most of the details wrong?
