It is condescending to talk to me about a No voter of your acquaintance who has made a decsision based on how "He seriously considered the issue. He's an intelligent man. He made his decision on facts". There's a inference in that statement that implies people in the Yes camp have not seriously considered the issue or are not intelligent. The bloody nerve of you. I'll tell you how I feel, I don't give a good goddamn what you think or how many questions you have (or your friend) no one in Scotland does, I know you think your opinion matters but unfortunately on this topic it matters not a jot. You are entitled to your opinion but "Your opinion" will have Zero effect on the referendum, I guess us ill-educated bumpkins will have to decide for ourselves.
So that's my "rose-tinted" view? I've never said there won't be problems, I believe it will be a challenge but the hurdles are not insurmountable.
Any inference is entirely in your fevered imagination. You really are an obnoxious person, aren't you.? No, I'm not Scottish, but to say the result affects only Scots, is nonsense. Yes, I have chosen to live in Spain. However, a lot of my financial affairs are still tied to the UK. So yes, it does affect me - and my family! Personally, I couldn't give a goddamn what you think either. I have tried to lay out the reasons why I am convinced that Scotland will be far poorer on it's own. The fact that you disagree, I can accept. What I cannot accept is your rude, would be intimidatory manner. It doesn't affect me in the slightest - I don't do intimidation. But it seems typical of the vociferous side of your Yes campaign.
One important aspect to remember is that the people voting could move away from Scotland and the people who currently aren't entitled to vote may at some point move to Scotland or return to the UK. That's why all opinions are important aslong as someone has a genuine interest in what happens to the UK and how either a No or Yes votes triggers changes.
I'd like to see the Scots vote yes, but in the current economic climate, (the no campaign seem to be using this to good effect) may cause the undecided to bottle it and go with no. I also wonder, if the vote is 'No', do any Scots (or those related to any) think following generations may resent them for not going with independence?
Fully support your ideals Boss but think your argument isn't quite right on this one. I don't expect to have a vote in Dutch elections, just because I might move there in five years time. I know this is not an election but in this case I think the principal is the same. My issue with the restricted vote is to do with nationality, not residency. Only giving Scots resis a vote has uncertain implications on nationality and rights to work for millions of people around the world. Votes will have an affect on the future's of millions of people who do not personally have a say.
Let me spell it out for you chum, you are an irrelevance in this referendum and i'm sick of your constant questions, you want answers then Google to your heart's content instead of playing Magnus Magnusson and lecturing people on matters which are of ZERO import (or should be) to you. As for Your financial affairs you pompous snob, now we get the gist of your gripe, and the massive chip on your shoulder, you are worried about your money, well forgive me if I don't give a monkey's when there are Scots people who want Independence because they are living in abject poverty while you live like some latter day lotus eater. These people want change because what they have is intolerable but you don't care, all you are worried about is Your Money. Do yourself a favour and stop asking question to which you have already seemingly answered for yourself, If you wanted to have an opinion that actually mattered you should have moved and lived in the country which will be most affected, then you could have had a vote. Also, do yourself another favour and stop talking to me, i'm starting to get irritated.
Yeah I don't get how they can exclude all the scots not currently living in Scotland but they are lowering the voting age to 16 to get a load of nationalist kids on side.
When I say entitled, I mean taking their view point as there are English born, Scottish born who have a genuine interest in what happens but aren't allowed to vote so their opinions shouldn't be dismissed. Just like you have people in Scotland who will vote yet have little interest in the outcome. As for voting, I would have made two changes. 1. Make the voting compulsory but include '' I don't give a toss option''. 2.Allow all Scottish born(that lived in Scotland for minimum 18 years) to have a vote. I've lived in Scotland for 10 years and could up and leave at any point, while there are many passionate Scottish people who can't vote so if the voting was more balanced it would give a much truer outcome of what is best for Scotland, from people who have a genuine interest.
Teenagers get very passionate and think they know everything and lots of them are easily swayed by nationalism and false promises. So I'd expect a high turnout for the YES campaign from the 16-17 bracket. Might be wrong though.
I think it was agreed by all sides that there had to be a cutoff point somewhere, if you start to allow every Scot around the world a vote you'd end up with about 10 million voters, lots of whom will never again live here. I did'nt agree with lowering the voting age but I have no issue now, I personally think they got it just about right.
That's what Salmond is targeting, he mentioned it himself this week at how proud he was to open the voting to 16 & 17 yr olds. Cheap votes from kids who are still wet behind the ears and as you say, impressionable. But that's the type of thing I've come to expect from the Yes campaign. Targeting the people who are easily won over by someone else's passion.
Well I know Scots kids, they tend to follow their Parents' political views, 16 year olds are not really interested in politics so they turn to their parents or peer groups for guidance, not the media. How many kids do you know who watch the news or live debates?
I couldn't give a flying **** about your up irritation, ok? I am entitled to my opinion. I have tried to be reasonable with you, but typical of your side of the campaign, you try to intimidate and shout down. I will continue to post my opinions on this matter as it affects all in the UK. My opinion is that Scotland will be far poorer if they go for independence - you disagree. Whether you choose to read, or respond to my opinions is entirely up to you.
Yes, I have yet to see any justification for the lowered voting age. The young persons debate the other night showed quite clearly that if is very rare at that age to be sufficiently informed on the issues to take a view. Most of the kids in the audience were more excited about being on tv for five seconds than they were about the referendum.
