WTF...Why should we? I they are god enough they will get picked. I agree with the racism thing against asian players (i.e.) there are not (m)any, but thats just a ridiculous question aimed at causing disruption. Who would you sugest we play then? And whilst you are at it, we are stil waiting for your explanation of why you dont like Fernandes. I wont hold my breath as I know you will hide away again
"Good", not "god" you illiterate moron. I'll tell you why, they do not wish to play for England due to the difficulties and lack of integration and acceptance they have been subjected to here. look at the Swiss, French, German, Belgium and other national teams who have benefited from this influx. Ozil, Scifo, Xhaka, Shaquiri, Podolski, Balotelli, Costa, Janujaj, and many more. Look at the racism Moeen Ali has just been subjected to FFS. What the f** is your problem, too many episodes of Neighbours melted your brain? I do not trust Fernandes and never have, just another Michael O'Leary with a Malaysian twist. He will be the destuction of this club mark my words. You think the "Goons" were bad, they certainly were but this c**t is in a different league.
Who is the illiterate moron then..? You know your problem Imaz?. Its that you are a racist! Are you seriously telling me that other nationalities (my own included) cannot integrate into British society after all these years? Yes there is racism in England, as there is in Australia, India, USA and every other country on the planet. Only a few choose to use it as an excuse. You, my friend are one of them. I dont give a F about Moeen Ali. Do you think Sir Les, Paul Parker,Clive Wilson or any other coloured player had it easy? Look how they ended up. And i thought Andy was bad. You need to get off that ridiculous high horse that is obviously shoved up your arris, get on with life and deal with it....Like the rest of us do I have neve met anyone so bitter. As for your views on Fernandes. You still have not given any credible reasoning, just your own opinion(which you are entittled to) PS. Dont get neighbours here anymore. Only made for saddos in the UK. Australia's got talent if you are looking for something to watch of your age level
I am not blinkered lads but of course have grown very cynical over various topics France its a nice place for me and a perfect refuse away from the mess I have farmers blood and have watched what an inflated house market has done to this country and what people must adhere to in order to live with that ... Two parents having to work because they are in debt to a house ... Loads more won't note you The game of football is much easier but in the UK suffers from exactly the same conditioning we all recievefrom the media Those things shape attitudes trends and moods ... be aware It's as easy as this I don't feel comfortable with that so I have to step out to a place where it affects you less
The French economy is in free fall. The problems you describe are pretty much global. You are totally blinkered.
I share some of your concerns on TF. For the moment, I am prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt. I know he is a decent honest fella and he puts his money where his mouth is but I'm not too sure he has the knowledge required to run a professional football club. Maybe he is too nice? Lets see where we are in 5 years time in terms of a new stadium and our finances. That is when I will make my judgement on him.
Its an interesting and probably impossible debate, and depends on what you value. I may be wrong but I think DT is talking about quality of life and general attitudes rather than wealth, and differences in what people feel is important. And in that context, while everywhere has horrible problems, from what I value, there is a difference in quality of life which is very attractive in France (which to be honest I am less familiar with), Italy and Spain, despite the disastrous economies, especially in the latter two. The attitude to work is more healthy (true in Germany too), people seem happier with what they have, there are local identities as opposed to every high street looking identical etc etc. All massive over generalizations and easily contradicted of course, and I have plenty of Italian friends who are in despair. My brother has lived in Madrid for 22 years (lost his own job 18 months ago) and remains resolutely English. He is scathing about the way Spain is governed, but has no intention of returning. In 2013 only 11% of Britons had never used the internet, compared to 39% of Italians and 29% of Spanish. I think this is a very significant statistic. When I walk round most European towns at 9.00 at night, people of all ages are out strolling, gossiping and window shopping. In England its predominantly young people falling in and out of pubs/bars or gathering in clumps in parks. Despite the £ devaluing by 25% since 2007, we still export less now than we did then. We are not in as strong an economic position as some would have us believe. Zero hours contracts are despicable. The place I have seen more smiling faces than any other is India. I'm rambling. This country is stuffed full of brilliant and beautiful things and people, it's a good place to live. Other places offer different things which are attractive in different ways. Vive la difference!
Agree but i am not talking about the economy I am talking about the culture … the day to day stuff that really influences life. The working and living culture has changed dramatically in the UK … I should know as I see both places currently. If i was talking about the economy then sorry Col you are very wide of the mark … Debt in France is taken seriously in fact you can't really be in it … The interest rates in the UK will hold people's lives in the financial balance IMO. London being the big exception as social housing is being squeezed at rapid rates to get more people with money to live in London. London is the finest capital of the world and possibly the richest and will only get richer … it's the focus now of the UK and will always come first in business and finance. France has Paris which has always been expensive but it is different in many ways. Lyon is the financial capital … what you read in the UK about France is not correct but Yes they face tough changes. The UK government seems to work independently of the people and is directly controlled by the money markets of London … the only real reason England survives. I feel that the USA and the UK are mainly responsible for the financial mess … what we are living through now are anti septic times, a sticking paster on a wound … a limbo of a lie and we are controlled to feel how others what us to feel. The French government is elected to serve the people, Yes they can be weak as they know they are employed but there is a big difference. France is no better or worse than anywhere else but has direct differences i prefer to align myself to. Youth Culture, Respect, Hard work (yes they work harder than us) plus many more like the realist price of a home, roads and transport and then of course there is the basics … food and nature The UK produces very little and buys in most things including its football players The French produce things and have industry including making football players We all have free minds for sure but it's the influences I am aware of as i live my life.
What you describe there is the way I see Cornwall. I'm sure there are many other areas in the UK that can be described as such too. I agree that the drinking culture in this country is a real problem, but a lot of that starts at home with teenagers seeing their parents guzzling a bottle of wine every night whilst insisting that they don't have a drink problem! I agree with some of what you say. However, you have become so patronising whilst putting your arguments across that you are in danger of becoming a caricature of yourself. You seem to think that you are the only one who recognises anything for himself and that the rest of us are total morons who can't think for ourselves. I have friends who moved to France and just couldn't stay as they felt totally strangled by red tape that hinders small business out there immensely. There are pros and cons everywhere and you are entitled to your opinion completely. But whilst you carry on being so utterly dismissive of other people's views you are in danger of being totally ridiculed.
Poor old Moeen Ali was abused by India "fans" for his Pakistani heritage - they werent England fans. English cricket has a good record of picking players from other cultures - aside from Ali there's australians, south africans, west indians in the current team and even an irishman captained England the other day!
Dt- speaking as someone who will be granted Australian citizenship tomorow, i can undertand your views. England is a great place but those that have travelled will also know there are many such places around the world. I loved Avignon & could have happily stayed there. Those that actually choose to stay in England do so for its positives. One of the best places on the pklanet if you know where to go, Granted the weather, economy, politicians and immigration is **** but...well it does have some appeal. to me it will always be home. (otherwise I' lhave to laser the St George cross tattoo off!) To each thier own mate and i know a lot of people who have come over here only to go home after a few years. depends on what you want from life. Personally i have 2 young kids getting an education and opportunities they would never get at home. thats my driving force...well that and endless bikini clad women for 9 months of the year i think DT, we have to give some credit to those who do stay in England to "tough it out". Good luck to those of you. this wasnt meant as a dig at anyone or anywhere
I live and work in England and I love it my issues is with the culture and how reactionary football fans have become I like any one of you on here cannot change anything so i choose to escape because i am lucky enough to do so I gave everything away in 2006 and am not a hypocrite as England has given me a living so I can enjoy life abroad as and when I respect everyones view on here and always add IMO to my post to express that is simply just that .. take it or leave it I do not think England's football is currently better than the Swiss by that I pose if these two teams played the top five national sides in the world the Suiss would do better IMO… Yet after one win we are world beaters … that is a culture problem IMO based on what is told to us via the media I do not think i am any better or worse than anyone else on here but i have grown cynical about the UK … this is because I live with a rich partner who has property in London and other places and it's an ongoing battle with her because she believe she has done well in life … Truth is she was lucky to be born in London. Her family the same have moved to south coast and full of it that they have made a million quid … They again were lucky to be given the right dice. At times i let my frustrations of that boil over into my posts maybe and we are all on here to escape something. I cannot remember quoting an opinion with that's utter bollocks and then tell a poster that they are dismissive I also truly believe in Taarabt as he is different and refreshing I laugh my head off after we lose a match on here because the evidence of what i am on about is clear and from the beginning i suggested a sick bag thread while defending the club we all love I do not agree with Harold as I said from day one he has no tactics and lies openly to us the fans but i respect him as he is our manager On Sunday I hope to be in my own river in 30 degrees in the south of France because i have earnt it
Show me anywhere where anyone has said that England are now world beaters after beating an ordinary Switzerland. You make it up. Yes you've earned your break, earning money from that great Satan. ..... Britain. You constantly tell everyone what you have and how much you earn whilst denigrating all things commercial. You say you're not a hypocrite but that's how you appear. ............ IMO.
Mate, your not rambling, that was a top top post. The thing that I can't get my head around is so many people keep whinging about life in the UK but we are the most popular destination for immigration and it's got FA to do with the welfare state. The majority of people who want to claim asylum in the UK are good honest people who want to have a fair chance in life, work hard and live a peaceful life. I know we have our problems in the UK but I'm so glad I was born here and I still love the place. PS: Dave this was not a dig at you mate, I have no beef with your views, different strokes for different folks!
It's true I struggle and am a hypocrite without doubt but that would never stopping me commenting on bullish posts that are wrong IMO Read the media regarding the England football team it's everywhere and is IMO plain brainwashing and something we shouldn't be proud of in the UK There's your true hypocrites The reactions on here re England again clear to see and I respect your bullish posts but I don't agree with some of them ... You react strangely and quickly to football IMO I didn't agree that the Swiss were awful as portrayed if fact I still think they are a better team at the moment than England My gripe is how fans react to results today and I believe it's getting worse. I will continue to pick up on it when I get the opportunity Your blanket comments about France also get my goat a bit and seem a bit narrow minded and I would always challenge that whoever posts stuff that I think isn't right as it invites argument ... That's a healthy forum We have different styles No problem with that Col
Again..............show me anywhere in the media or on here where anyone said that England are now world beaters. It hasn't happened Paul. I have said we have good young players with potential and that we need to be patient with them. Nothing bullish there. I didn't say that the Swiss were awful.....again, you have made that up. Ordinary and over-rated? Certainly. Take Shakiri out and they truly are very ordinary imo. Well organised and difficult to beat they may be, but that's about it imo. If my comments on France have been "blanket comments" then that wasn't my intention. I don't agree with their current Government's politics (on the whole) and I have first hand comments from friends about what it's like to run a small business there. I'm sure the place you retreat to is idyllic, as is mine in Cornwall. I suspect that we're not so different Paul, but as you say vive la difference!!
