The point that everyone gets pissed off about is the enormous double standards you ****s expect. Where were you when I took a pay cut to ensure the future of the company and my job? Where were you ****s when final salary pensions were scrapped in the public sector? Council employees do less work for more pay and better benefits yet still complain about stress. Your argument that just because we got shafted doesn't mean you ****s have to is bollocks. When the private sector made sacrifices to ensure survival we accepted this as a neccesary evil. Better to have a low paying job than no job. This is a concept which is somehow alien to most of the workshys who are on strike. I would be a teacher if I didn't hate sitting around doing **** all for 3months a year.
actually its oversubscribed, a lot of teachers are failing to get the 1 year probation places you do after finishing training because there's so many of them.
Lone ranger - agreed. my post was more having a go at those just blindly criticising them. And the idea that they sit idly by doing nothing for 3 months is simply not true. They have to organise the following year's syllabus, get themselves up to speed with new information etc. do the kids' reports and various other stuff. More of their time is spent on admin stuff than actually teaching.
i think teachers have a pretty good deal, although getting from training to actually getting a job is too hard (because its hard to get rid of crap teachers) and i do think it must be a hard job. i think the other big difference between the public and private sectors is that the private sector is not heavily unionised anymore and the parts that are are not as militant, i think that this is down to the fact that after the 70's and 80's a lot of people realised that unions could often do a lot of harm to a business if they act too aggressively whereas in the public sector its not like the NHS is going to go to the wall so its not really an issue.
why should we feel sorry for teachers? It's not like they were forced to take the job. If they dont like it get another job. ****ing pathetic
My heart bleeds Chippy. They are people who cannot make their way in the real world. How many classes a day to they teach? The rest is for admin. Every job in the world requires preparation, changes to new information (try working in the pharmaceutical industry) and most work longer hours and have ridiculous admin tasks as well. Teachers are a shower of institutionalised slackers who need to find out what the real world is like.
And what about you lot who work in the private sector? You're all rich ****s, doing as little as work as possible for the maximum amount of cash regardless of how it ****s up the economy and you avoid paying taxes by employing clever accountants. Bunch of bastards.
Trev- thats an astonishing claim to make. Where did you get these figs? Source please? Or did you just pluck that out of the air...?
"Every job in the world requires preparation, changes to new information (try working in the pharmaceutical industry) and most work longer hours and have ridiculous admin tasks as well. " I don't disagree - same with my job in terms of learning new technolgoies etc. The point I was making is that it isn't really accurate to say they sit on their arses doing nothing for 3 months a year.
What he said. Infact ANY whinging on this topic is pointless. If ANY **** doesnt like their job and thinks the grass is greener, then WTF dont they get up off their fat arses and do something about it? Cant be doing with cants who put more energy into moaning and griping then they do into improving their lot. I've worked in private and public sector, and I can say without any hesitation that there are cants in the public sector who wouldn't last 2 mins in the real world of the private sector. They'd be drummed out the premises if they worked for an oil company, an engineerig firm or a bank, say.
Christ, it's like listening to William Hague and his infamous speech to conference when he was little more than a foetus.
