I know what you are like PNP you just love an argument. LOL Scotland does NOT have a voice WESTMINSTER has a voice. You treat all of my evidence with contempt or as fuel to launch another round of discusion. do not forget I remember you and HOLTE LEGENDS. and I am not getting sucked in
You asked for a link so I gave you it's origin and I don't know what you mean by I'll have to do better, I'm not trying to do anything..............mate. I also gave you the report of the investigation RBS WILL MOVE OUT OF SCOTLAND IF THE YES VOTE WINS. I'd start looking to woo other banks if I were the Scots Nats or Labour. God, what a pair to have in government opposing each other.
It's pretty obvious to me that the differing opinions present here are never going to agree. In my view, a vote for full Scottish independence would be an economic disaster for both Scotland, and the rest of the UK. but Scotland especially. What I would consider perfectly reasonable, independent evidence and forecasts have predicted pretty much the same thing. Only the SNP seems to disagree! In a weeks time Scotland will decide. I hope and believe that the Scottish public will wake up and vote No. Spurf and others will disagree. I suppose, in just over a weeks time we will have the result. Then we can start the post result argument.
I hope they vote yes just to see them fall flat on their faces. Nothing better than a good dose of politics to stir up the warlike stances ay. Obama's plan to smash ISIS has been drawn up and it looks pretty limp to me.
"The institute of fiscal studies, whatever your view of their neutrality, is far more likely to produce an unbiased account of the true economic realities than the SNP are." The IFS has a good rep of being 'equal opportunity offenders' . Whatever they publish tends to p*ss off one economic/political party or another in equal measure (because their studies don't match the yarn the latter are spinning) .
Blah blah blah. Yeah yeah yeah. We are way past this RDBD The Institute of Fiscal Studies has shown it's colours and they are Establishment. They can be neutral in the South of England because tha whole place is to the right. I know I have lived there for many years and I still own property in Sussex. If they were neutral they would not have made the reports they have. I am not quoting SNP figures btw nor is the SNP they and (Business for Scotland of which I am a member) use exactly the same figures as IFS we just don't spin them we show ALL the figures. Apart from that the IFS report is pure conjecture, Just take me back to before Lehman Bros and their predictions then. These people still have the balls to make predictions when they have been shown to be complete arses. IFS Not interested in their spin and vested interest position.
How is the international standing of the UK ever going to improve from having 5 million citizens decide to leave it?
"Blah blah blah. Yeah yeah yeah. We are way past this RDBD The Institute of Fiscal Studies has shown it's colours and they are Establishment." Who is "establishment" ?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBKXu3Kg4yg
Outlets? It's not a furniture store it's a bank. RBS will follow what is best for it's business. Edinburgh is a financial centre second only to London in the UK if it moves anything it will be at most a a couple of hundred jobs. As I said before anybody who knows anything about the financial industry know it's about people who build expertise; they cannot just move a large business like that because of the need of thousands of expert people to run it. Nonsense is my answer, you will hear all sorts of things as the money men play the game. Many will make millions of pounds through speculation. It is in their interest to talk Scotland and the UK down cause currency falls, buy them cheap, knowing they will rise again , to sell and make their profits. It's what they do.
Explained at great length earlier see the thread. I am not doing all the work RDBD That link frightened the life out of me.
I would just say, once again, that it is typical Yes campaign to dismiss anything and everything that doesn't suit their own line of spin. If the Yes campaign and/or the SNP disagree with the findings of the IFS and the CEBR, I'm sure they will be contacting them with their own proof that these institutions have got it wrong.
"If the Yes campaign and/or the SNP disagree with the findings of the IFS and the CEBR, I'm sure they will be contacting them with their own proof that these institutions have got it wrong." Sod waiting for that, I am still waiting for the "Yes" campaign "bill of materials" executive summary on the credit/debit balance sheet for running an independent Scotland.
"If the Yes campaign and/or the SNP disagree with the findings of the IFS and the CEBR" And "BusinessForScotland" likes to cite the IFS as "Main sources of information" (although not specifically what info was being used for what) .
Correct in the sense that you are supporting the Establishment position. We are fighting that position so it would be rather surprising if we supported their stuff would it not. Why would we contact them? The CEBR is blatant political tosh dressed up as if it is authoritative. There figures are so skewed as to be almost just straight lies. They also mix speculation in among the figures to make their argument look strong. It is not. Even a non economist like me can see through this stuff once you have access to the original official figures.
Official figures supplied by whom? As I have said, it's easy to just dismiss what these institutions say. If they have got it so wrong, for whatever reason, then I'm sure that the Yes campaign will be contacting them with proof of their own?
1. Not interested in the Ryder Cup. 2. Is the BusinessForScotland "vision report" now fundamentally flawed, given that it cites the "Establishment" as one of its "Main sources of information" ??
It's going to be a no vote anyway so those who want to stay as part of a stronger union need not worry. Now the Bank of Scotland have stated they will leave Scotland if it was a yes vote and that will lead to many job losses not just in the banks but in everything. foreign bosses will also leave as the fear of taxes and rates are predicted to go out of control as Scotland don't have enough money to sustain a stable economy and because of that possible romantic yes voters are now coming to their senses and realizing they not only will be worse off but their jobs are at risk.....
