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A63 shut for the West Ham game/Boundary change debate

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by originallambrettaman, Sep 8, 2014.

  1. DMD

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    Having lived and experienced both from several angles, I'd favour Hull City Council over ERYC on many of the fundamental issues of running an authority. There's a big difference between being seen to hit Government targets and actually providing a decent service.
     
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  2. WhittlingStick

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    we are about to move from HCC area to ERYC ,

    i got a letter from the caaaaansil this week telling me to stop putting food rubbish in my blue bin

    at the end of the letter it also said to disregard the letter if it didnt apply to me - well i was away on holiday that week and didnt put a bin out

    what a waste of waste .

    Dont hold out much more hope for the East Yorks to be any better :D
     
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  3. GLP

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    No complaints from me on ERYC.
     
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  4. NorthFerribyTiger

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    East Riding bins are easy

    Blue Bin - Plastics, Cardboard, Food Packaging, Tins, Paper
    Brown Bin - Organic waste (garden waste, food waste inc cooked food, eggshells, bones, teabags)
    Greeen Bin - Non recyclables (anything you can't put in Blue or Brown)
     
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  5. NorthFerribyTiger

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    No, no complaints here either considering the huge geographic area of ERYC & the fact HCC actually receives more government grant than the whole East Riding.

    There are big differences between urban councils like Hull & rural like ERYC, the problems they encounter are very different.

    There are also other issues with the current consultation with HCC potentially planning to build on the greenbelt between the city & the villages making the whole thing one huge urban sprawl.
     
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  6. renegadetiger

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    The bins in Hull are exactly the same, except the green bin is black.
     
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  7. renegadetiger

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    Planning permission for the green belts you refer to has already been granted - by East Riding Council. Hull CC has stated its commitment to the preservation of green belts except in cases of flood defence work and in some cases, housing development. The idea that the green belts will disappear is just propaganda from the "say No" crew.

    Don't believe everything you read on leaflets...
     
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  8. DMD

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    That sort of propaganda and misinformation is sometimes why people think they have no problem with ERYC.
     
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  9. originallambrettaman

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    Racist.
     
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  10. renegadetiger

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    The ballot isn't the deciding factor, it is just one part of the proposal that will be presented to the commission. For a decision to be made, ALL affected parties must be consulted, not just people living in the East Riding Council area. So if you all vote "no", don't be surprised to find it makes very little difference.
     
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  11. charles stokell

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    I was going to say that!!! but I have been accused of being a racist already on this forum just for saying "I don't go down Spring Bank any more". I don't Live in Hull now.
     
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  12. Chilton's Hundreds

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    No politics
     
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  13. NorthFerribyTiger

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    True, however like you say ALL the affected parties must be consulted, so simply because HCC want something does not mean it will happen if the majority of other parties do not. I personally cannot believe anyone on the ERYC side of this whole thing will want any part of HCC, having spoken to a few ERYC councillors the elected members of ERYC do not appear to be in favour of any change either. The only real beneficial changes I can see are not covered by this consultation such as shared bids for products & services within the entire area from outside companies (but then who gets the backhanders :emoticon-0104-surpr ) There could also possibly be some internal contracting of services like payroll between the authorities (I believe that in ERYC that had already been done when some services now back under internal control were run by ARVATO and they took on other company payroll)
     
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  14. NorthFerribyTiger

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    It should also be said that the whole commission is being set up by HCC alone & is basically considered as a hostile act by ERYC which was not consulted on the establishment of the commission & that as long as it's residents back it's stance that it will fight against any proposals to expand HCC
     
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    ERYC have jumped in far too quickly with a ballot provoking a mass outbreak of nimbyism and narrow mindedness. Pictures of selfish nimby pensioners lined up with banners supposedly defending greenbelt land from the Hull terror make me sick. We should wait for the commission to recommend the benefits of a Greater Hull to pull us in line with other successful regenerated northern conurbations like Leeds, Sheffield & Manchester. Leafy suburbs exist within all other cities without loss of identity. The same wards will still exist and the sensible suburban councillors will be in a position to challenge the more ****witted estate councillors on the perpetual gravy train like Terry Geraghty for the high profile jobs. Its ridiculous to have such tight boundaries which create a false perception of the area when projected in school league tables for example. We should have one authority. I live and work in the ER and I’m disgusted by the amount of narrow minded anti-Hull feeling this has provoked when we all share the same fantastic region.
     
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  16. DMD

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    ERYC are bound to be hostile. They're fearful it will have to pay for some of the facilities they currently get for free from Hull.
     
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  17. Charlie1

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    Is this thread drifting into a political discussion? That isn't allowed is it? :emoticon-0127-lipss
     
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  18. NorthFerribyTiger

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    That was why the boundary commission broke up Humberside into smaller authorities with more common problems which represented their local communities better, what does someone in Driffield have in common with someone in Hull ? Or someone in Beverley for that matter. Rural authorities better manage the affairs of rural communities while urban ones better represent urban communities. I live in Ferriby but apart from the river have nothing in common with Hull, I only come into Hull to watch City play, when it comes to shopping I travel to Willerby/Brough for food or York for anything else.

    The East Riding is one of the best performing authorities in the country, why try to fix something that's not broken simply be removing parts to fix something that is ?
     
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  19. DMD

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    That was one small part of many more significant issues.
     
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  20. Chilton's Hundreds

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    Different rules for the Mods........
     
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