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Scottish Independence and other political topics.

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  1. SpursDisciple

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    He would be morally obliged to resign, absolutely no option.
     
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    Can't see a PM who oversees the dismantling of the UK continue as PM. A YES vote would be the end for Cameron I think. The conservatives would want to distance themselves as much as possible from that outcome and the pressure for him to go would mount on all sides.
     
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  3. The Mighty Thor

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    Seems a bit drastic to me but Lord North had to when we lost that little Island across the pond when Cornwallis surrendered to Washington.
     
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  4. Spurf

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    That alone should convince any undecided people to vote YES <laugh>
     
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  8. humanbeingincroydon

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    Jump before Milliband shoves him and his cronies out next May, you mean?
     
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  9. redwhiteandermblue

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    Though what a stroke of luck that turned out to be.

    I feel about Scotland the same way I feel about Puerto Rico. Why should a people with its own history and its own language be ruled by a different people? (In Puerto Rico's case it's because the US in effect bribes Puerto Rico rather heavily not to vote for independence.)

    But I do have more mixed feelings about Scotland, not for Scotland's sake, but because it would alter the UK. I've gotten used to the UK as a force for good in the world (on balance, obviously, but still a political entity that's done considerably better, or at least less badly, than the US, IMO), and I worry about the possible knock-on effects of any changes.
     
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    Do I detect some attempt to suggest that morals and politics are somehow synonymous?
     
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  11. The Mighty Thor

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    How is Scotland ruled by other people when so many top politicians spread over a long time have been Scots? Ramsay McDonald for one. Lord Strathclyde the Leader of the House,Blair,Brown,Dewar,Cook,Robertson,Lamont,Whitelaw,Gilmour. Kier Hardie conceived the Labour Party, Douglas Home, MacMillan and the list goes on. They have devolution when they vote on English affairs and nobody in England cares about that. Just how have they been governed by others?
     
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  12. Spurf

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  13. NSIS

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    Ah yes, good old utopia pops it's head up again!...
     
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  14. afcftw

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    No chance labour will win at the next election, not with ed milliband in charge. He's the most un charismatic failure of a politician I've ever seen.
     
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    Even one of his own shadow cabinet, who wished to remain anonymous, said " He acts weird, talks weird....is weird!"
     
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  16. afcftw

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    :emoticon-0136-giggl
     
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  17. The RDBD

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    "Standard life and BT both saying YES would cause them major problems."

    I can understand insurance/pension providers (a few of them have a very large percentage
    of their customer base in UKminus, wanting to be dealing in the strongest currency,
    exposure to Scotch bank debt etc) , but not BT.

    As I work in the telco industry, I would want to see more specific info on what BT are
    whining about (always suspicious of big business using any uncertainty to try and pull a
    move - whatever it is) .
     
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  18. The RDBD

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    "Uncertainty is definitely the reason for the fall of the pound against the dollar
    but i don't think the drop in stock price for several large Scottish companies is just
    due to uncertainty but the risks people see involved in Scotland getting independence."

    A lot of the market activity relates to the UK debt (specifically its subsequent re-assignment) .
    The market likes clarity in these matters.
     
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  19. afcftw

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    Yeah BT where not particularly clear how it was going to effect them.
     
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  20. afcftw

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    Yep, thus the risk of independence now it looks a possibility leads to a drop in share price for the companies with heavy interests in Scotland.
     
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