I you are interested in where I and many are coming from, here is an article that explains it pretty well. Deborah Orr.
Some people on here just don't like someone who challenges their prejudices and produces evidence as well. I have spent some trying to explain a position and some of your posters are open and engaging others it has to be said are bigotted, ill informed, and almost rascist. Democracy is the word here, that is what this is about and all civilised people should support that.
I actually agree with many of the sentiments expressed in the article. I just don't think Scotland seceding from the Union will achieve anything other than to impoverish Scotland over time and to reinforce the Tory and SE England hold over the government of rUK. Maybe the best result would be a very narrow defeat for independence, but one which galvanises Westminster into action - abolition of the Lords, reform of the Monarchy, increased decentralisation of government, increased local involvement in how cities and towns are run, more investment in infrastructure away from the overheated SE of England, more postive and active involvement in the EU, less military posturing around the world, etc. etc. I can but hope.
Well I have been participating today only.... and this is a little snippet of the comments by smurf above. Probably sums up why this discussion is getting nowhere ! Biggest insult to call me ,a green voter, a Tory....but as it is not true... it flies over the proverbial head...
I am glad to hear that positive comment from you, if all of those things happened Scotland would not be seeking Independence. They are not likely to without the major shake up that this referrendum may provide. All along I have tried to explain why this referrendum is my hope for England as well as Scotland.
If the vote is No then you can expect the skirt wearing Neanderthal Yes voters to run amok and cause carnage and chaos throughout Scothchland. Scotland will be another Beirut as the violent nationalist racists take their revenge or losing out.
You should see what it's like up here. The Yes voters are causing mayhem and dishing out beatings to No voters. ****in scumbags of the highest order.
Yes. Jóhan Berg Guðmundsson, Heiðar Helguson and Brynjar Björn Gunnarsson all played at Watford between 1998-2010 and I followed them from the three footballers and I stayed. I have visited a few times to see the club. I saw Heiðar when he returned and scored two goals against Leicester City for my first match, the first cup match with Manchester City and many games with Hull City as my friend supports them, I think is a fisherman thing, and some other games.
One thing I do not want is for Scotland to be independent and enter the ESB quickly as this will giveo ur idiots hope to join as well.
Biggest irony of all is the so called evidence the troll says he has produced - all he does is send links to Yes vote based web-sites or copy and pastes from said web sites. Whenever he is directly challenged, he throws his toys out of his Yes pram and starts with the personal insults - we are all racists now!
Interesting debate and forgive me if this has already been mentioned, but if there is a YES vote, and an independent Scotland applies to keep the pound, surely it is only right that the English, Welsh and Northern Irish all get a vote on whether they want Scotland to keep the pound! If Scotland chooses to divorce itself from the UK it can not then expect to keep with the existing monetry arrangements and expect the Bank Of England to be lender of last resort.
aha... ... and of course an Englishman living in Scotland being so vehemently in support of an argument that is marginal. Unwilling to consider the middle ground without resorting to abuse ..... I actually know very few English folk who are that bothered..... Thanks for the clarity again W_Y
As I understand it, an independent Scotland can use whatever currency it likes, its own, Dongs, Barts, roubles, rupees, Euros etc. or a combination of any number of currencies. If it does use the pound though, it would have no control over interest rates, foreign exchange rates etc. and cannot expect the Bank of England to act as a "lender of last resort". The pound in Scotland would be a currency of convenience and sentiment only - they might as well use the Euro.
