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OT: Mafia

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by Milk not bear jizz, Sep 3, 2014.

  1. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Danilo can you reply like Lucaas did? Are you innocent or an investigator? Or of course you can fess up and we can end this round early <whistle>

    Any evidence to offer
     
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  2. Unless it wouldn't make a difference. at that point, there is no point in changing the vote and raising suspicion.
     
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  3. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Sorry you posted as I did there so I missed yours
     
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  4. Unless he is telling the truth. If is an investigator and you are the Don then revealing himself guys one of two way:

    1) We believe him and vote you off; success

    2) We don't believe him and we vote him off; fail killing but we know who to target on the third night.


    If he is lying about be the towny investogator, then the two ways are:

    3) We believe him and vote you off; fail killing; we then attack Lucaas on the third night

    4) We don't believe him and we vote him off; successfully killed a mafia member

    Only problem I see is number 3. In light of such claims amongst a lie, I would expect Lucaas to be the mafia investigator. The Don could recruit a towny during the third night meaning we would effectively be a towny down.


    As I said earlier, we have to be willing to take a towny sacrifice to get more information. In light of Lucaas' claim, we will know one way or the other come Monday morning.

    We have been saying we need to find the two mafia members. This is wrong, we need to find the Don. Killing the mafia investigator obviously helps but the don can see what is happening in the votes and just recruit to replace him.
     
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  5. Well, I'm not the Don but you would expect me to say that. With how I've been talking in this game I think its fairly obvious I'm not. Much like I think its obvious MITO isn't anything special (in a nice way <hug>).

    this is the first time I've ever played this game so I wouldn't be surprised if I've been naive whilst trying to get to grips with how it works. again, I think the same applies to MITO.
     
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  6. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    on 3... the maths (i know i know) is 2/7 right now. if we do 3 then I would assume the mafia won't be standing still. if we kill then it would be 2/6 then shortly thereafter 3/5 and they get another chance to investigate us... and at that point ok we find out lucaas is lying and kill him it'd be back to 2/5 but if he is investigator fro them then we'd see another kill that night to be 2/4 but we'd have lost one investigator then it'd be a race for our one final investigator to find both of them and not us.

    I could see the next vote being 3-3 or something and another innocent going down.
     
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  7. Lucaaas

    Lucaaas Well-Known Member

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    If I WAS a mafia member I wouldn't have been this aggressive so early in the game. I'd have nothing to gain by drawing attention to myself this early in the game unless I was actually telling the truth, which I am.
     
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  8. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    bartard....

    i'm special.... but you seem to want to link up with me which in itself is suspicious. if we are both townies then fine we could vote the same way but what if you are not... or i am not.. then one us us woudl be very foolish looking at the end
     
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  9. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    ok, thats fair maybe so but for the fact that IBWT said "its the quiet ones" and voted for you.
     
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  10. Only reason I'm "linking up" with you is because you are the only one (other than myself) that I am convinced about <ok>
     
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  11. Lucaaas

    Lucaaas Well-Known Member

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    That's the point though, in the first round there was no point drawing attention to myself because if I was voted off the townies would've lost one of two investigators. And the mafia tend to aim for the easy targets at the start, like Astro, who drew a lot of attention to himself and made himself look suspicious by throwing accusations round.
     
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  12. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    for me i'd not wait for all votes but that would be me. I think if i knew for sure I'd try and catch that person out somehow.

    Ok i can see if you are the don then lucaas is safe and the game is in effect over but what i don't get is why did the mafia do nothing last night.... nobody has answered that one yet.

    I'd again ask can you offer any defence? 4 people have voted and i might vote 2 making a tie impossible so if i'm the firs tto convicne then convince me one way or the other.... same challenge to lucaas
     
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  13. The problem with waiting is what if someone points the finger at you and you gain a lot of votes? You'll just look like your trying to save yourself then


    Milk said that he was waiting for one PM. I would guess that that was the Don. Which could help us out a little knowing that it wasn't someone "active" yesterday.
     
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  14. Lucaaas

    Lucaaas Well-Known Member

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    And its a lot harder to convince people to change their vote rather than getting them to vote for someone.
     
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  15. I think its human nature to doubt people in these situations and I'm believing you a little too much here <laugh>
     
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  16. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    but here is the thing right. you voted first for greez here. "due to a lot of villains usually being bald" which sounds like a perfectly random vote and fair enough my own vote was for hash as he set up the terrorist thread and i thought milk would give him a role as a result. you switched to IBWT... the thing is all danilo did from my table in post 302 is that he switched votes from gerrez (like you voted) to Astro.

    Now i'm sorry but i found astro's theory flawed just as much as i found ibwt's theory flawed and 4 peopel voted for astro. If danilo found the thing as unbelievable as IBWT then his first vote is as logical as yours. Maybe danilo just didn't play it as well as you then?

    gerrez is indeed probably the easiest of easy targets but everyone bascially switched from them to astro and ibwt due to them arguing. what you are saying is basically both you and the mafia sat back and let the rest bash off each other then waited your chance... the thing is.... if there's 2 mafia and you that's 3 sitting back... If I follow the logic then i should just look at the lowest posters as was suggested early on in this day... by IBWT and then luv and hash are two too look at but none of use are even considering them

    it still boils down to who is more believable, danilo or you.
     
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  17. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    true... but as mods are we allowed to do that? it'd break rules... I think it'd be fine to look back and look for posts. Who posted yesterday. can milk answer before any mod looks at anything else please? We can look back as we've more than a day to do so and i'd guess that all we need do is look form say morning to 8pm as that gives a full window remembering not all of us necessarily has a job like you and me gerrez where we can doss on noy606 all day.
     
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  18. Your still trying to find the mafia rather than townies <ok>
     
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  19. luvgonzo

    luvgonzo Pisshead

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    Is anyone dead yet? I vote Gerrez next. :biggrin:
     
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  20. I have no idea what you're on about there <laugh>

    Milk told us yesterday (just before 8pm; the first one, not 9pm <laugh>) that he was still waiting for a PM from one person.

    Just to clarify to everyone else that might be panicking here, as mods we can't see anyones PMs other than our own. the are private and remain private. Not even the supermods or Mick can see them <ok>
     
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