Extending the KC Stadium

I actually mentioned that the best long term option would be a new custom stadium rather than an extension at the KC which is already starting to show it's age

There is no way HCC can afford to put any more cash into expansion & no way Allam will as long as it remains HCC property.

Best option build your own stadium or sell up & let someone else deal with HCC

 

There's so much wrong with what you've just written it's hard to know where to start
In what way is the KC 'showing it's age' it's ten years old ! Do you move very couple of years on the grounds that your house is not the newest on the block ? The sight lines are great , I don't know about you but my seat isn't warn out the pitch has just been relaid....**** this is just stupid
Best option ' build a custom stadium' and presumably one that doesn't age ? Or will we then need to move very ten years, yeah that's a really clever and cost effective ' long term' strategy
As for the council putting more money in well you may actually be right amazingly but I always have a problem with people who say ' there's no way' and you know that for a fact ? And of course you can predict absolutely what will happen in the future ? You're not Doris stokes by any chance ?
' Best option build your own stadium' yeah that makes sense why spend £10 million when you can spend £ 50 million to get the same thing, but then if AA did spend millions on a new stadium by your bizarre logic it would be obsolete in 10 years.
As you appear to be the only person who is aware of 'thousands ' going down the M62 to watch the WS can I suggest you cadge a lift because with your grasp of reality you'd get a place on their board faster than you can say Peter Ridsdale

 

To be fair to OLM there are a number of ego trippers involved with CTWD, doing the contemporary coffin carrying only for the good of the fans of course, yet some of whom were not as vociferous in the 'bad old days'. Although everyone of the 20k who presently live the dream at the Circle was there at BP for the Hartlepool game with the 3000 or so others of course, it is arguable that some of the aforementioned were probably not!

I wonder why the latter day Dave Dueberrys were not there fighting against some of the real villians of the past?

 

not even remotely similar. on the occasions i go to the Circle these days, my journey is a nightmare, and I only live less than 10 miles away!

With the apparent takeover now imminent and now highly unlikely in reality, Melton would be a far better proposition for all visitors both home and away.

 

The point I'm trying to make...

People are saying if we built a 5000 seat extension that we would sell those seats because of out success & raised profile & 5000 (or maybe 10000) seats is achievable, but it would still leave us as one of the smallest grounds in the Premiership. Now working on that theory then in 3 or 4 years if we remain in the Premiership then we will need a further extension, which is not really possible at the KC.

We are in theory going to get increased crowds season on season so we will need to keep increasing capacity & therefore if the shiny happy people with rose tinted specs are to be believed we will in a few years have outgrown the KC.

What should we do therefore, which is the best option ? Spend £10 million, or £20 million now increasing capacity by 5 - 10000 and then in 5 or 6 years say the ground is not big enough or wait a while, save a bit of money & then build a new purpose built 40000 seater stadium & avoid future obsolescence by building in such a way that additional future expansion is possible at the lowest cost

 

I only live at Ferriby & on matchdays (if I don't set off to arrive an hour early) it can often take me 40 minutes to get to the KC but I do prefer football grounds to at least be within the boundaries of the town/city they represent, that's why I'm not entirely convinced about a stadium at Melton which is in a different administrative county

 

KC for all its good points was put in a bad place and until Anlaby Road is sorted out (some hope at the moment) then it will remain in a bad place, by the way what happened to the proposed railway station?

 

In addition to being the only person who thinks thousands of hull folk decamp every week to watch the WS you seem to the only person who is not aware that the KC like all modern stadia was built in such a way as to facilitate expansion if necessary. Even if it was not modern building methods enable even older structures to be extended it has happened to numerous grounds Ibrox, Anfield, Hillsborough etc.
At least with expanding the KC it can be done in stages to meet the particular demands ie taking capacity up to say 32,000 as the first stage.
As for moving to Melton, no I'm sorry city centre grounds are much better than the retail park jobs such as derbys or boltons. It makes the stadium the focal point of the city , living in newcastle st James park dominates the skyline ensuring no one can forget how important the club is to the city. Anyway the KC was built on the site of our first proper ground and so is a continuos link to our history , something given recent proposals is to be maintained at all cost.

 

If I leave home to arrive an hour early it takes me 20 minutes to half an hour, if I leave to arrive 15 minutes before kick off it takes me up to an hour although in Summer/Autumn I can do it in less than half an hour on my bike (although someone has tried to nick it twice there now)

 

It's a reasonable point with regard to access , having to drive back to the north east after the game can be a nightmare especially if I get stuck on argyle street bridge and the coppers hold the traffic up to allow the away coaches to convoy out . I don't know how many people come by train or if there are any football specials anymore for away fans, obviously Boothferry halt was a feature of BP in the days when less people had cars and away fans came on train ( and also because of where BP was located ) . Would a station at the KC help ? I'm not sure because of its proximity to the city centre it's easily accessible by foot . Parking is a problem I've often wondered if the land next to the rail line as you walk from argyle street could be developed for extra parking, but that in itself would not solve the road situation especially as it's right next to a major hospital.

 

Which means, if people really must use their car, it's reasonable for them to park elsewhere and walk in too?

I've read people saying it takes them an hour to travel the three miles home, but frown when it's suggested they walk.

 

Plus, when we moved to the Circle we moved back to our spiritual home, and since then our star has risen and risen, I would avoid at all costs moving from where we are currently situated.

Harold Needler once thought that a shiney new stadium with an increased capacity would provide the impetus to project us into the top league, and the rest is history. As much as I loved Boothferry Park I always had this feeling that the place was cursed somehow.

 

When I was a kid I walked to BP ironically over the railway line and past where the KC is now and generally I think for lots of reasons more people should walk if they can than use cars for relatively short distances. However it's a fact of life that with the paucity of public transport more and more people rely on the car. At least with the KC the proximity to the city centre means those who drive can use the car parks in the centre and walk , likewise those who come in by bus or train have only a short distance to walk.
If a new stadium was built at Melton more people who need to drive, I'm not sure of road access and I'm sure people who live in the area would kick up a fuss with having tens of thousands of people descending on the area every other week.
I think in reality the KC is pretty well located in truth

 

This can't be a serious post.
KC out of date after 11 years .????
Judging by this we need to pull down and rebuild a few arenas
1, Wembley will have to come down in 4 years time.
2, Sunderland, Boro,King Power, now
3,Arsenals in about 4 five years also
And as for Man utd/City and Anfield which just goes to show what an ill thought out post this is.
Where also do you think the 100 million pound would come from for a new one.

 

Lol, that brings back memories, I used tread the same path, from my home in Kimberley Street. In fact it was a really surreal moment the first time that I walked toward the KC for the first time, walking across the new footbridge, all around me, from the railway lines, to the old ground, and Hymers, which we always referred to as Gloomy Wood,we're my childhood memories where we used to play, I wouldn't have changed a thing!

 

BP was cursed by gypsies, FACTOID

 

Any way you look at it we've had more success in just over a decade at the KC than we had in nearly 60 years at BP. Simon Inglis in his seminal book on football grounds describes BP as ' rather soulless ' a bit harsh I think, what it lacked really was team to match it's aspirations , on the relatively rare occasions the two came together it was anything but soulless .
For too many years small crowds rattled around in a ground designed for greater things ironic then that we now have a ground which is too small for the things we are achieving. It shouldn't be forgotten there were plans at one stage to expand BP to hold 80,000 !!