Ben Arfa/Ramirez Newcastle/Southampton are unable to recall them to play them before January. Their registration is currently with us and can't return to their parent clubs until they are allowed to sign players, which is when the January window opens. When it gets to January, whether they can be recalled or not and whether compensation is due to us if they do depends on the wording of the deals we've done. If a foreign based club is in their transfer window and wants to buy them then if the deal is agreed the loan is ended to allow the deal to go through regardless of when it is. They cannot be recalled to do a permanent deal until that deal is agreed (unless it's January, see last paragraph). We would be due compo if we'd paid a fee and this happened. Free Agents We can sign them any time we want providing they were free agents at 11pm last night (when the transfer window closed). If someone is released tomorrow, tough, we have to wait til January to be able to register them to play. We might be able to get an exemption on that if it were to sign someone who was released at the end of their contract and would be unemployed (eg an MLS player if their deal runs to October/November) rather than just being someone who had mutually agreed with heir club to end a deal early. To be able to sign them though we need either a space in our 25 man squad, or for them to be born 1st January 1993 or later. As far as I'm aware if at the submission date for the 25 man squads we have 25 players that need to be named in it to be played then we have to name them all. This is based on Sunderland naming Elmo in their squad for the 2nd half of the season when we had him on loan. They had no recall option and even if they did they wouldn't have been able to play him anyway but they still wasted a space by naming him. Loaning players out Next week the emergency loan window will open meaning we can loan players to Championship, L1, and L2 clubs anytime up to the 4th Thursday in November. The loans have to be between 28 and 93 days long. The 93 day limit is for a player at any 1 club in the whole of the season. The 93 days can be split into chunks through the season to maximise the availability of the player (like we did with Boyd). There is no such thing as a recall clause. Any emergency loan can be ended at any point after the 28th day. If the loan has been split into chunks then each chunk has to be at least 28 days long before the recall option is available.
Ben Afra cannot be recalled according to the telegraph: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...e-United-after-loan-signing-to-Hull-City.html
The OP gives more depth to the theory, but the recall clause (okay, it's not really one, just a general term for recall opportunity ) would seem to be an in-built feature in the process.
Last line of this? http://www.sportsmole.co.uk/footbal...stle-star-questions-ben-arfa-move_174754.html
A loan player being sold by the parent club will leave there and then, regardless of whether there's an option for recall or not.
Looking at the rules and what isn't included in the deal (Apparently) it doesn't matter if he is sacked tomorrow.
I said that. Not necessarily our transfer window though. It only needs to be an open window for the club buying the player. Ben Arfa isn't on an emergency loan, he's on a long term loan so it's a different set of rules (which is why him and Ramirez were separate to the loaning out of players bit). The 28 day recall is only on emergency loans, and it's because usually when we send someone out on an EL you get loads of people saying they hope we've got a recall clause.
