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Summer 2014 Net Spends

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  1. Sir_Red

    Sir_Red Well-Known Member

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    Interesting reading:

    United -122
    Arsenal -46
    Liverpool -36
    The BS -33
    Man City -32
    West Ham -31
    Newcastle -25
    Hull -25
    QPR -21
    WBA -13
    Palace -11
    Chelsea -10
    Leicester -10
    Sunderland -10
    Burnley -8
    Villa -6
    Swansea -1.5
    Stoke -0.5
    Spurs +6
    Southampton +31

    Especially when you consider rumours that we had £60m excluding player sales available and that before selling Suarez Rodgers said that he was going to make the signings to date regardless. So, questions are

    1) has Rodgers really spent the Suarez money? With the exception of buying Mario (who would not have been bought if we had kept Suarez)

    or

    2) is it still there for us to spend in January?
     
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  2. Tobes

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    Have you got a link for that table?
     
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  3. mighty_stevie_g

    mighty_stevie_g Well-Known Member

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  4. Sir_Red

    Sir_Red Well-Known Member

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  5. Tobes

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    Cheers <ok>
     
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  6. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    Yes.
     
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  7. astro

    astro Well-Known Member

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    I think we will do business in January too, assuming the right player is available, no need to #panicbuy and #panicloan like Man Utd <laugh>
     
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  8. Milk not bear jizz

    Milk not bear jizz Grasser-In-Chief

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    Money is always lost from "Football" during transfers.

    Legal Fees
    Administrative Fees
    Taxes
    Agent Fees
    Sign On Bonuses

    A varying % is lost. If you sell £100mill of players, there may only be £80mill to reinvest after paying fees.

    That "36 mill" we spent- if you add in all the fees we spent over the summer to sell Suarez, etc, is probably closer to £50mill... We not have spent all our predicted £60mill but I bet we're close. Plus, our wage bill is almost certainly higher- do we know that the 60mill didn't include wage increases too?




    I highly doubt we spend a lot in January.
     
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  9. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    If we're there or thereabouts (which I hope we will be) we'll spend if the right player(s) is/are available.
     
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  10. Ar we going to have a sweepstake on how long Tobes takes to come back with his "neutral accountants" view?
     
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    I wouldn't bother, as I just wanted to read the piece smart arse
     
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  12. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    so my impressions thus far;

    1. Arsenals high net spend is looking good value. they bought Chambers, Debuchy, Ospina, Sanchez and only waste money on Welbeck. Vermealen went out for 15mil too

    2. Liverpools numbers are skewed obviously. 9 players in.... total of something like 125mil spent and 81 or so taken in. not including loan fees.

    I don't really agree with 34, i think its more like 44mil

    3. seeing city below evertons net send (if accurate) shows ffp can work but only when a punishment is meated out.

    4. chelsea must be laughing at how much moeny they hauled in as they now look champions elect from 3rd place for a whole 10 mil?

    finally...... utd 122 mil..... 60mil is diamria, 7.5mil is falcao. 27 is shaw. 16 mil is rojo, blind is 14mil and herrera was 29mil = 153.5mil. bebe, buttner, evra and welbeck are 20 or so mil and i've no clue about their loan fees either 122 might be close
     
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  13. You've known me long enough to know I'm only playing Tobes <hug>
     
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  14. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    I'm also willing to be if there is a 20mil player available we'll spend 20mil.

    if there's a good 10mil player thats what we'll do....

    its indeed down to right player and a budget per window
     
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    What can we do when there are ******s out there prepared to spend £122m on Luiz, Lukaku, Mata and De Bruyne, none of which would have even played for Chelsea <doh>

    We need Financial Sensible Play, although that would also make Man Utd far less "entertaining"
     
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  16. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    true true...

    luiz was a joke fee. Lukaku fee was daylight robbery. I know everton like him and all that but nobody else wanted him at all and still they screwed everton with a huge fee, Mata fee was i'd say a party at stamford bridge when utd agreed that fee.
     
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  17. Sir_Red

    Sir_Red Well-Known Member

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    44mil is what transfermarket are stating but they have Suarez down as £65mil, which as we know is more barca bulls**t
     
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  19. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    I looked at sky sports and they had 75mil for suarez but the outgoing fees were less. like 8mil for can which is wrong.

    In the end if we had 60mil to spend and took in 75mil then we should have no issue with that net spend of 44mil.
     
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  20. As much as I don't like it, you have to admire and appreciate the approach that Chelsea took after the FFP stuff was announced. They've assessed it and decided to buy a **** load of quality young players before FFP kicks in. They've then sent them all out on loans knowing full well they could sell them at later date if and when they need to generate financial income. As they've sold them, they've not only signed first team players but also more youngsters to repeat the process. Its well played by Chelsea really, Man City should have looked to do this with their billionaires too! Of course, there is no way they anticipated someone paying so much for Mata, Luiz, Lukaku and De Bruyne!
     
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